It doesn't have more range than a 17hmr though does it. Either in effective killing distance or how far the projectile could actually travel. It's slower out the barrel, with worse ballistic coefficient.
17 hmr has Less wind drift than those fx slugs. Even at 1280 FPS for 80ft/lbs (when it won't be quiet due to the crack).
That's absolutely fine. I use my hmr around farms and close to houses, nobody notices it and if they do aren't bothered.
But I don’t shoot it at 1280fps so it doesn’t crack ?
Am off work for 3 weeks. Al come down for some free shooting if you want. Thanks. Al bring some rifles too. If you need any foxes shooting. Got a couple of fac airguns to. Thanks Keith
How do you get 80ft pound from a 22gr slug then? Sorry I thought you were talking about the ones in your photo (fx 22gr).
Indeed. FAC air at the right weight and pace is a joy to shoot.
I would liken it to the same report you'd get from a 410 shotgun, maybe a little louder. A mod certainly takes this sound leaving only the crack from the sonic bullet which when behind the rifle doesn't really sound super loud. Though shooting my permissions during the winter months close to housed livestock I decided to add a 22lr to hush things up a little with a mod and subsonic ammo. But I'd probably favour the 17hmr as it's an amazing little calibre.
A sub sonic bullet is heard better and more alarming to animals than a super sonic. And, when you hit something with a sub sonic 22 it will not be silent.
As "livestock" takes in a wide range of animals farmed or kept. I understand and know the thud of the bullet cannot be silenced. I know as a horse owner they will spook with a click of the fingers, sheep can also be spooked around the thud of the bullet. Though I have yet to find any evidence to suggest a subsonic bullet is heard by animals or spooks animals more than supper sonic bullets. But interested in your findings and evidence to support as I strive to keep on the good side of my permissions.
I've shot for years with a moderated shotgun by horses and without a moderated shotgun. The moderated one spooks them more. They can hear the hissing shot.
Ah okay, I misunderstood and this is your personal experience. Yes, horses can become used to the shots around them if it's a common happening as with most livestock. It doesn't really reflect on their trainers how they react as they need to be subjected to the experience to allow them to understand there is no threat or harm to them. A Thoroughbred will spook at a fart but most calm within minutes. I shoot my suppressed 17hmr not far from my Thoroughbred and he now only jerks at the report. Though I do agree that he is not so settled with an air rifle with silencer, he would react to that report differently to the point I do not use the air rifle close to him though I myself find the 22lr to be quieter than my air rifle, think I need to regrease the spring! It really boils down to the livestock and their experiences with sounds and how they accept this as a non threat. Rabbits, I don't have an abundance of but I'm finding a bigger bag full of them while using the 22lr though this is at a much closer range and really shouldn't be used as a measurement in this instance. I've found that the 22lr suppressed certainly has had a better result near housed farm livestock than my suppessed 17hmr but I expect this will endure a new learning curve come next winter as the livestock are nearly all turned out now. Hopefully I can keep them trained while in the fields and shooting in close proximity.
I believe it's the hissing noise that we barely notice. To them it probably stires an ancient response to things that hiss, like snakes.
I wouldn't dismiss anything that livestock would hear or respond to, so many hear frequencies that we humans can not. Even if we move our position just slightly around buildings or hedges the report of a rifle can sound much different to them. As a shooter, need it be stalking, vermin control or simply just plinking we need to be aware of so much more than just squeezing the trigger when we've been entrusted with the right to shoot on our permissions. I've declined many shots due to the possibility of spooking livestock, safe backstop and an unsurety in my mind. There will be other times that vermin will present itself for a clean and safe shot.I believe it's the hissing noise that we barely notice. To them it probably stires an ancient response to things that hiss, like snakes.
