16 Bore

I will have to have a look at the Hull Pro sixteen when I use up the current ones I have been using. These are some that where loaded by Eley and printed “Langthorn”. They are 21g fibre 7.5 shot as loose in photo. I understand that Joker also make a 21g load.
 

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Here’s my German krupsteel maker’s unknown 16 bore Ne 29.1/2 barrels . I love using it for rough shooting and walked up days got it from Vigilaire on here as a gift 🎁
Never felt under gunned with a oz of lead and points like a wand 60827f5b-26b6-4e4e-ad7a-11f1ff6d6e52.jpeg
 
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Agree with others on right size action. For me 410 SxS look wrong.

Some great value 16 bores for sale, I missed a No 2 AYA over 49 years ago.
 
I have a DDR made Suhl 16 sxs with a claw mount and an older Zeiss Jena scope, they were issued to the hunters to do driven days with slugs on boar then they had to give them back into the armoury, so I was told.
 
Over the last twenty years I’ve owned a fair number of 16 gauge guns mostly Parker’s but a few euro guns and a nice Fox A grade As well as a couple A-5’s and Win Model 12’s . Of all those guns I shot four of them a good bit better than the rest . Those were a Parker VH 30” , Parker VHE 26” straight grip skeet gun , a Parker DH 32” 2 frame and finally the aforementioned AH Fox A grade 28” . Of those guns without a doubt I shot the DH 32” the best having won a bit of trinkets at clays with it and making some quite nice witnessed shots at pheasants but that gun is choked 38/1000ths in both barrels . The VHE 26” skeet I shot average wise just as well as long as the targets are inside forty yards as that gun has I think 20/1000ths in each barrel . Worth noting the DH above is on a 2 frame which is considered heavy for a 16 and the gun also has 2 7/8” chambers , seems several of the US ammo manufacturers loaded a 3” 16 back in the 20’s .
 
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Sorry - first time posting a photo. It is a 16 bore semi-hammerless made in 1964 but never fired. Has a 2.75" chamber and powerful ejector, so I shall take it out soon against January pheasants.
 
I bought this 16 bore a few years ago and use it on odd walked up days or pigeon roosting. It is still being fed with 2 1/2 inch cartridge's bought from Enfieldspares. It is a Remo based on an 1898 Mauser action.

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The Remo and Geha 98 conversions are fairly common out here . I've seen a number of them modified into dedicated slug guns with either iron sights of one form or another , or drilled and tapped for a scope , the latter have the bolt modified to clear the scope . It's surprising how well they shoot when set up properly . Solid old guns .

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Looks a cracker. I have a 16B H&H non ejector royal- not silly money and it’s spot on. 12B seems a bit numb afterwards, and I shoot 28g 6 through everything so there’s nothing in the load…..
 
We sold a Baird hammer 16 gauge that was made in Glasgow earlier this week .
Not a 16bore point, but as the owner of a Gow, Dundee gun I have often wondered whether it is actually more Birmingham than Scots - given that the provincial 'gunmakers' often bought guns in rather than actually making them?
 
Not a 16bore point, but as the owner of a Gow, Dundee gun I have often wondered whether it is actually more Birmingham than Scots - given that the provincial 'gunmakers' often bought guns in rather than actually making them?
More than likely Birmingham made. Or at least the principle bits will have been. They would be supplied in various states of finish from ready to go to the customer with local gunmakers name, to roughly forged parts that then need to shaped fitted and built into a fine gun.

But many smiths started with blocks of steel and rough forgings and then shaped them up by hand.

I suspect for most it was a mix of both. Bought in for the cheaper / entry grade. Hand fitted and finished for the higher grade, and totally built in house for top grade.

But even the bought in guns still had a lot of hand work in them.

Some Scottish makers still make guns this way. I was shown the workshop of one of the leading Scottish gunmakers - a smallish lathe in one corner, a pillar drill in the other and a couple of benches and files, chisels and lots of skill.

End product is truly beautiful and price reflects the time put into making it.
 
View attachment 342132Image as mentioned. I'm at clays tomorrow, it's not ideal for them, but I don't care. 135 years old and still going strong.
I see nothing wrong with the H&H for clays ! Come to Sanford NC USA in April for the 2024 Southern Side by Side you’ll see several hundred folks shooting SxS’s in many events 8 to 410 and EVERYTHING in between !
 
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