.260, Overlooked?

mostly new rifles were designed and built for the new higher pressure smokeless powders because using smokeless in a BP gun is foolish

Many black powder guns were converted to use nitro powder. They were originally designed to run between 12 and 18k psi in black powder and were then used safely (in some models) with much higher psi in nitro powder. Look into it, a lot of rifles/shotguns were simply put straight into use with nitro powder
 
Many black powder guns were converted to use nitro powder. They were originally designed to run between 12 and 18k psi in black powder and were then used safely (in some models) with much higher psi in nitro powder. Look into it, a lot of rifles/shotguns were simply put straight into use with nitro powder
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I bet people said the same when nitro powder was introduced. ‘It’s too dangerous, we should stick with our tried and tested black powder’


Providing the action is designed to withstand those pressures as a matter of course - which of course there are very few designed specifically to take such high pressure rounds

Seekins PH3 is one such design - specific for HP

I can see people pushing boundaries with steel cases and with that will come accidents

By all means make fun of my opinion - but having built many hundreds of rifles over two decades and seen some horrendous reloading practices during that time - this development is a fatality waiting to happen
 
By all means make fun of my opinion - but having built many hundreds of rifles over two decades and seen some horrendous reloading practices during that time - this development is a fatality waiting to happen
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By all means make fun of my opinion - but having built many hundreds of rifles over two decades and seen some horrendous reloading practices during that time - this development is a fatality waiting to happen

Be careful not to take yourself too seriously, A light joke doesn’t need to be taken as an insult.
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Not really convinced on that, since the cases are not reloadable. As I understand it, it's a one time use case. Can they be reloaded? Yes (it's been done). But with those pressures, it's unknown how long the cases would last before catastrophically failing. Not something most people want a couple inches away from their head. And the manufacturers do not recommend reloading the cases.
They are supposed to be reloadable you will need an expander to bell the case mouth, Federal says maybe 5-6 reloads per case. The other brand Shell Shock are also reloadable.
 
i had a 260rem before they were popular but changed to the creed as soon as it arrived because coincidentally my 260 needed re-barrelling , i cannot quantify it but it seemed to me that an accurate load was found easier with the creed than the 260rem ? in my experience anyway ?

the very fact that superb factory is available nearly everywhere regardless of what people say IS a good thing and a massive advantage !

running AICS mags i was at a disadvantage with the 260rem as i could not seat the long slippery bullets out far enough a non problem with the creed

one other great thing about the creed is it triggers people , reason enough to own one (or two in my case)

there are those on here with a childish hatred of anything creedmoor (they are easy to spot) they put me in the mind of sufferers of TDS in so much as no matter the facts and regardless of the good things they will hate on the creedmoor at any opportunity - hilarious :rofl:

as for being banned on military ranges , well this is stupid beyond compare , right up there with not being able to use 303 but can use 308 on the thetford RAF range ! Locally all 6.5mm rounds are banned regardless of the case on military ranges and whilst we all know that it's utterly ridiculous as does anyone with even a basic grasp of ballistics the military i'm sure will see the light on how stupid this all is but sadly change moves slower than a glacier with our military bureaucrats.

like ronin i am wary of the new super high pressure loads and personally think that they are a flash in the pan , i know the military are looking at it (277 sig fury) but has it been adopted yet? if adopted it may gain traction ?
US army has adopted the 6,8 military version of 6,8 fury.
 
Are the rifles designed for 60k psi, or is that just what a brass case can handle? Rifles in the uk are proofed using cartridges higher than 80k psi. Time will tell if it’s a good idea or not, but I can’t see the problem in trying to make new developments, unlike others who poo poo anything developed after 1990.
 
I've had 2x 260's. One of them I could seat bullets out to where I wanted. The other I had to seat to the length on the magazine. I bought a x47 just before the cm came on the scene, if it had been a few months earlier, I would have bought a cm just because it's easier to get brass and to resell. I've got a 6.5-284, if the 6.5prc had been on the scene when I got this then the same reasoning would be applied
 
They are supposed to be reloadable you will need an expander to bell the case mouth, Federal says maybe 5-6 reloads per case. The other brand Shell Shock are also reloadable.
Interesting. I saw the manufacturer of the cases state that they did not recommend reloading them.

Seems to be some contradicting information out there.
 
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