.308 For Roe 400+ yards?

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countrryboy said:
Possibly picked u up wrong but are the deer near a boundry or is it a small permission? Just when u mention 55 acres.

If near a boundry so u can't actually get downwind of the deer mibee try approaching the neighbouring landowner or do a deal with the stalker there. He will have the oppisate problem to u can get to the deer but there all on someone eles ground..

Are deer feeding out of feed troughs or just a coincedence there round about them?
If feeding out of them possibly ask farmer if he could move them nearer to get a safe shot. But that may not be possible as usually on/near a track/hard standing for easy access with tractors
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Yes fella two sides are surrounded by forestry commission, this is how the farmer has access to this ground with a vehicle. As I haven't got permission off the commission I'm not sure where I'd stand legally, using their property as access with a firearm. So my only option is coming from the opposite side which is miles of 'green lane' just about accessible by quad bike for most of the journey then walk the last mile or so. So that's 3 sides covered. The last side of the permission is on an up hill, (imagine being on the brow of a hill but it goes on and on for ages) so can't get a safe shot as the target would be always on the sky line.
 
I missed a crow at 405m with my .223 today propa gutted...dialed in the wrong wind adjustment ... I love mid range vermin shooting ....
 
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Nick T said:
I do a lot of target shooting & 1moa at 400yds not usually a problem, & we nearly always have 2 sighters (not possible when stalking), misjudge the range by 25yds & your POI changes approx 5", misjudge the average wind by 3mph & you're around 4" off, that's a big difference to a heart/lung shot on a Roe
The OP probably means well but for me it's not a shot I would ever consider, nothing worse to me in stalking than a wounded animal.
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Absolutely correct.
 
Chasey said:
The 260 remington is considered the most acurate long range round but the 338 lupa Magnum would be my choice

Beer can at 1230yards


That said the skill in stalking is the stalk so personaly id like to get a lot closer. 200m would be about my personal max kill distance. Then only on a wind free / low wind day

Also a roe hit chest shot with a 338 lupa Mag? Id guess the back lags would be the only salvagable meet.

I reckon shots of that range are best taken on paper or beer cans

ATB
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338LM doesn't wreck meat if you shoot them over 600 yards.

Surprisingly the one i took at 110 yards was no worse than a 243 either.



bogtrotter said:
No offence to the OP but I see more and more of this in the stalking world, as more and more people are coming into the stalking world
I saw another post from the OP where he was shooting targets at a mile so I don't doubt his marksmanship, but I do doubt his field craft..

If you want to be a stalker learn field craft, stalking is not about how good a shot you are,many good stalkers are not great shots.
The sport is in the STALKING trying to get as close as you can, the actual shot should be almost an anti climax, no need to Bea fantastic shot if you can put a bullet in the kill area of a beast at 200 yards that's more thanvood enough, most shots when stalking wi
ll be considerably less most woodland shots are at less than a 100 yards and even on the open hill not many are over a 150.

It should be about the stalk rather than the shooting at least for a recreatkonal stalker , if the shooting is what does it for you stick to targets.
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I used to do a bit of target shooting as well

At 500yards our targets were this big

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Ranger338 said:
Yes fella two sides are surrounded by forestry commission, this is how the farmer has access to this ground with a vehicle. As I haven't got permission off the commission I'm not sure where I'd stand legally, using their property as access with a firearm. So my only option is coming from the opposite side which is miles of 'green lane' just about accessible by quad bike for most of the journey then walk the last mile or so. So that's 3 sides covered. The last side of the permission is on an up hill, (imagine being on the brow of a hill but it goes on and on for ages) so can't get a safe shot as the target would be always on the sky line.
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I'd imagine if the farmer has legal access throu the commision ground u will as well even with a firearm in ur motor. Ideally u'd drive on to ur permission before taking it out ur motor.
Don't imagine FC would like u parking up short and walking last bit with a slipped rifle and usually the FC are bad to get a proper answer off esp if u go throu the bosses and usually the default answer will be NO as it covers there a**e.
If u know the local FC ranger he may be able to help u or put u in touch with a more sensible paper pusher.

I'd also contact BASC/ur org to find out the exact legal position in Wales for accessing ground over someone elses with a gun.
In scotland u can do it as long as gun slipped
 
Just a minor point we don't have forestry commission land in Wales. It all changed a few years ago with an amalgamation of the various environment and conservation agencies and it now comes under NRW (Natural Resources Wales).
 
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Get a military grade laser sight (should do you up to about 2000 yards) then call in an apache for an air-strike.

Being serious, please dont even consider trying to shoot Roe at this range.
 
willyroe said:
Get a military grade laser sight (should do you up to about 2000 yards) then call in an apache for an air-strike.

Being serious, please dont even consider trying to shoot Roe at this range.
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I will be posting this to the OP so he can get dialled in then stifle the 100 yard crowd... :stir:

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Chasey said:
The 260 remington is considered the most acurate long range round but the 338 lupa Magnum would be my choice

Beer can at 1230yards


That said the skill in stalking is the stalk so personaly id like to get a lot closer. 200m would be about my personal max kill distance. Then only on a wind free / low wind day

Also a roe hit chest shot with a 338 lupa Mag? Id guess the back lags would be the only salvagable meet.

I reckon shots of that range are best taken on paper or beer cans

ATB
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And who told you the .260 is the most accurate long range round? They need a slap
 
Sorry I have never found roe in exposed open areas that hard to close distance on, they really are mainly woodland beasts with sharp noses and ears but relatively bad eyesight compared to other deer species-especially sika/red. IMO anyone routinely shooting roe past 200yds is either missing fundamentals, eg scenting the deer out, or is doing so because they want to for whatever reason.
 
jameshodgson said:
Sorry I have never found roe in exposed open areas that hard to close distance on, they really are mainly woodland beasts with sharp noses and ears but relatively bad eyesight compared to other deer species-especially sika/red. IMO anyone routinely shooting roe past 200yds is either missing fundamentals, eg scenting the deer out, or is doing so because they want to for whatever reason.
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A lot of my roe are living on very open exposed moor ground, the others in forestry plantations and have done so for a lot of years.
Yet move south and they are mainly woodland creatures!
 
levigsp said:
A lot of my roe are living on very open exposed moor ground, the others in forestry plantations and have done so for a lot of years.
Yet move south and they are mainly woodland creatures!
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Yeah I appreciate that in places there are 'hill roe', which can be a bit quicker with the eyesight. I would still stand by the premise that routine long range roe culling is likely through choice than necessity. Don't get me wrong I'm not adverse to taking longish shots, but only where no other option exists, and I have personally found that this is never the case with roe deer.
 
tackb said:
I have a 260 and it's excellent but to claim it's the best/most accurate is nonsense , in that class the creedmoor seems to be very popular now ?

Common theme is slippery 6.5mm bullets at reasonable velocity ..........
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6.5mm creedmore had the worst performance of all in this example. Even worse that. 260
 
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