5.56 when my FAC says .223

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I have ".223" on my certificate. It says nothing more than that. Will I be OK to buy 5.56 NATO ammo or does my ticket need to explicitly say ".223/5.56"?

I understand the potential issues with shooting 5.56 in a .223 chamber, BTW - but I just need to know whether I can legally buy it.

Thanks in advance.
 
I have ".223" on my certificate. It says nothing more than that. Will I be OK to buy 5.56 NATO ammo or does my ticket need to explicitly say ".223/5.56"?

I understand the potential issues with shooting 5.56 in a .223 chamber, BTW - but I just need to know whether I can legally buy it.

Thanks in advance.
I would think it wouldn't matter (5.56 vs .223) since they are dimensionally the same round. One is just loaded to a higher pressure spike (hence the 5.56 chamber having a longer throat).
 
I have ".223" on my certificate. It says nothing more than that. Will I be OK to buy 5.56 NATO ammo or does my ticket need to explicitly say ".223/5.56"?

I understand the potential issues with shooting 5.56 in a .223 chamber, BTW - but I just need to know whether I can legally buy it.

Thanks in advance.
Depends on the person selling you the ammo.

Always best to get slots for 5.56/223 rem or 7.62/308 win…………
 
I have ".223" on my certificate. It says nothing more than that. Will I be OK to buy 5.56 NATO ammo or does my ticket need to explicitly say ".223/5.56"?

I understand the potential issues with shooting 5.56 in a .223 chamber, BTW - but I just need to know whether I can legally buy it.

Thanks in advance.
To the OP...

I doubt in fact that any commercial ammunition for stalking or use for hunting (therefore with an expanding bullet of whatever style) will be in anything BUT boxes marked .223 Remington or casings headstamped .223" or .223" Rem or similar. Now the connected question is would an RFD sell you ammunition headstamped 5.56mm where your FAC says .223" Remington?

The same arises (although less so now as it isn't really much used outside of users of old military rifles) if an RFD would sell you 7.92 Mauser ammunition on an FAC for an 8x57 or 8mm Mauser. Back in the day it was never an issue. Nowadays of course most Nazi 7.92 Mauser ammuntion is s5 so it is a moot point. But yes before the Tory "armour piercing ammunition" ban I bought such 7.92 Mauser and also, indeed, 7.92mm BESA ammunition for use in an 8x57 stalking rifle I once owned in the early 1980s.

So yes a commonsense RFD should sell you ammunition for target use. But as you say do be aware that pressures are different!

The shooting catalogues are not exactly full of rifle cartridges with two names or alternative names but yes, there's .244 Remington and 6mm Remington, there's .303 British and (I'm looking at some fired cases) 7.7mm but as things have become less confused the 7.7mm designation by some nations of the .303 British has gone into history. True if anyone wants one I'll be listing them on SD Classifieds later this week and of course the classic USA vs Europe .25ACP aka 6.35mm, .32 ACP aka 7.65mm and .380 ACP aka 9mm Kurz.

Hope it helps! And whilst I'm here as a kid, as a teenager as someone on my age twenties, thirties and even forties it was always just ".303" never this American imported naming of ".303 British"!
 
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To the OP...

I doubt in fact that any commercial ammunition for stalking or use for hunting (therefore with an expanding bullet of whatever style) will be in anything BUT boxes marked .223 Remington or casings headstamped .223" or .223" Rem or similar. Now the connected question is would an RFD sell you ammunition headstamped 5.56mm where your FAC says .223" Remington?

The same arises (although less so now as it isn't really much used outside of users of old military rifles) if an RFD would sell you 7.92 Mauser ammunition on an FAC for an 8x57 or 8mm Mauser. Back in the day it was never an issue. Nowadays of course most Nazi 7.92 Mauser ammuntion is s5 so it is a moot point. But yes before the Tory "armour piercing ammunition" ban I bought such 7.92 Mauser and also, indeed, 7.92mm BESA ammunition for use in an 8x57 stalking rifle I once owned in the early 1980s.

So yes a commonsense RFD should sell you ammunition for target use. But as you say do be aware that pressures are different!

The shooting catalogues are not exactly full of rifle cartridges with two names or alternative names but yes, there's .244 Remington and 6mm Remington, there's .303 British and (I'm looking at some fired cases) 7.7mm but as things have become less confused the 7.7mm designation by some nations of the .303 British has gone into history. True if anyone wants one I'll be listing them on SD Classifieds later this week and of course the classic USA vs Europe .25ACP aka 6.35mm, .32 ACP aka 7.65mm and .380 ACP aka 9mm Kurz.

Hope it helps! And whilst I'm here as a kid, as a teenager as someone on my age twenties, thirties and even forties it was always just ".303" never this American imported naming of ".303 British"!
While you are generally correct, these days we are starting to see some casehead stamped "5.56" brass, sold as .223 (plus crimped primers). It's all the overrun stuff from the war in OIF/OEF, that manufacturers are turning into civilian ammo. Not sure if it'd ever make it to your shores, but it's seen around here a bit (not uncommon, but not really common either, if that makes sense) in inexpensive plinking and varmint ammo.
 
As posted above, it will depend on the person selling you the ammunition, some will insist on you having 5.56 on your authority to possess others won’t care.

My ticket has 7.62/.308, 5.56/.223 and .38/.357. At least one person at the FLD doesn’t know the difference as when I was granted 7.62x54 my ticket was brought out to me with no ammunition allowance. I asked why this was and was told ‘you already have 7.62 on your certificate,’ I explained to avoid any issue purchasing ammunition I needed 7.62x54 listed separately as it is a different cartridge to 7.62x51. The lady looked slightly confused but gave me my 250 rounds of ‘additional’ 7.62 allowance listed as 7.62x54!
 
I would call your Firearms Licensing team to be on the safe side, mine came back with 5.56×45 on . When contacted they said it covered 223 .
Just to be clear , UK rifles comply with CIP and as such .223 and 5.56 NATO operate as the same max pressures.
 
My ticket has 22cf on it. I could have bought any 22 centre fire. That's what Leics Firearms suggested I apply for. The RFD had to query it when I bought my 22250.
A farmer I know asked for a .22 for dispatching lambs and they sent his back with .22 CF. He didn't know until he went to buy a rifle and the RFD then talked him into a 22250 he is under LEICS too. Don't think he was too impressed when first trying it on a lamb that had lost its eyes to the crows
 
they are the same calibre but it depends on who is selling it and what their view is.
I have 223/556 to solve any issues as I used to have the same issue with 22 rimfire... some would sell WMR to me, some would not.
 
I have ".223" on my certificate. It says nothing more than that. Will I be OK to buy 5.56 NATO ammo or does my ticket need to explicitly say ".223/5.56"?

Email you FLO asn ask them.
Thy will likely respond by eMail which you can show to your dealer/RFD if there is any issue.
 
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