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No. That was 35 years ago. See my previous post where I said the last recorded adder death was arounf 20 to 30 years ago.

You originally claimed that it was a fit and healthy teenager before editing your post above! A child is more susceptible to snake venom than ateen or even adult. lol

I'd say 35 years is more than a few years ago. In fact it's my entire lifetime.....

Best.
 
Sorry, i never realised it was as long ago or that Adders had changed genetically since then as to be of no danger to humans.
 
I was bitten by an adder on my calf when I was about 8, it hurt, a bit of swelling and a headache.
I was taken to hospital where i had one or more injections (long time ago now) but was released same day.
I don't remember any other symptoms, and it has caused no problems since.
That should have ensured I stayed well clear of them in the future, but about 15 years ago I picked a tiny one (about 6") up to move it to a safer place before it got chopped by a brush cutter, I showed it to my son who had never seen one.
It seemed quit happy sitting on my hand, as I went to put it down on a sunny bank it got the end of my fore finger, just a little jab with one fang, felt about like a wasp sting, finger was a little stiff and swollen for the rest of the day, but nothing else.
No I haven't touched one since, but to be fair they seem to be getting quite rare round here these days, shame as I like seeing them about.

Neil. :)
 
Snakes aren't any prob here - you just leave the little buggers alone and they'll leave you. I once sat on a large stone on the bank of the river Forth to rest, my father came along and warned me to watch out for the snake. A little adder had sat warming himself less than 3ft away without any prob.

I must admit that i hated snakes in Belize. Practically all are poisonous and some would even seek you out -
-The Tommy (Fer De Lence) is really terrirtorial and aggressive. Usually you'd wait for any snake to continue but that bugger would stop and rear right at you.
- There's a night snake called a Jumping Viper which would come into the harbour position and nest up in any kit/equipment left lying. More than a few tropopers were bitten when first up in the morning and at their slowest.
- There's another yellow/green coloured viper that sits in trees and then drops down to ambush. One of them dropped down onto a guys bergen and reared up around his head.

There are so many snakes in Belize that you just have to assume all are venemous. Generally you tried to stay away from them and leave them alone but inevitably there was only one answer to them; a 12 gauge shotgun.
 
I was bitten by an adder in Gloustershire in 2002. It bit me on the back of the calf, the site of the bite swelled badly and bruised very badly. The pain was similar to a wasp sting but about five times as bad. Within about half an hour I felt like I had the worst hangover of my life. These symptoms lasted for about two hours, after that the pain and swelling began to reduce and were gone after about five or six hours, the bruising got worse during this period and took several days to go. I rang the local Doctor who advised me not to drive or work but to sit calmly in the shade, he said that he did not advise taking the UK anti-venom as, apart from the bite I was fit and strong, it is not species specific and is basically similar to 'the morning after' contraceptive, a massive dose of anti-toxins that will make you puke and poo until you think the world is going to end! He also said not to take painkillers as the pain is a good indicator of how my body was dealing with the venom, he said that the pain should gradually reduce, if it increased or I had any symptoms of anaphilactic shock then I should call 999. Obviously, he advised me not to be alone for the next twelve hours or so. I have since described this incident to an expert and he basically agreed with the Dr's judgement but said that he would probably have suggested getting someone to take me to A&E (given that it takes about 12 hrs to be seen in A&E, this would have been a fairly good period of observation!) He said that in his opinion, from the symptoms, I must have recieved a fairly large invenomation which, had I not been fit, strong and of a decent body weight could well have been far more serious. JC
 
scotsgun said:
Snakes aren't any prob here - you just leave the little buggers alone and they'll leave you. I once sat on a large stone on the bank of the river Forth to rest, my father came along and warned me to watch out for the snake. A little adder had sat warming himself less than 3ft away without any prob.

I must admit that i hated snakes in Belize. Practically all are poisonous and some would even seek you out -
-The Tommy (Fer De Lence) is really terrirtorial and aggressive. Usually you'd wait for any snake to continue but that bugger would stop and rear right at you.
- There's a night snake called a Jumping Viper which would come into the harbour position and nest up in any kit/equipment left lying. More than a few tropopers were bitten when first up in the morning and at their slowest.
- There's another yellow/green coloured viper that sits in trees and then drops down to ambush. One of them dropped down onto a guys bergen and reared up around his head.

There are so many snakes in Belize that you just have to assume all are venemous. Generally you tried to stay away from them and leave them alone but inevitably there was only one answer to them; a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Never had the pleasure of Belize but I saw a guy jump into a fire trench on Ash or Pirbright on a run down only to spring straight back out like a gynmast and start dancing around! After i'd finnished jumping all over him for the fact that his weapon was pointing in every direction except down the range, we looked in the pit and saw three small adders! I gave him another bollocking as he should have been looking at the targets not what was around his feet! That lane had already been in use all morning and I can't imagine that all three snakes had dropped in there between details. Happy days! JC
 
Seen plenty on the hill, once had one strike my boot, i use to have bother with pointers in Sutherland, we lost 1 dog and had another couple bitten.

A pal of mine gave up keepering because of the fact he was allergic to adder bites, once was enough for him:)
 
I heard of a story about a guy in Ozz who was having a tom tit with his strides down when a snake struck his nadgers.

The guy said to his mate ring the flying doctor quick I think thats one of those brown whatever snakes


His mate rang the Flying doctor and described what had happened and the doc said I am over 2000 miles away from you and you need to act quickkly and make an incision at the bite with a knife and suck out all the poison, if you dont do it right away he will be dead in 15 minutes.

So he went back to his mate and his mate said what did the flying Doc say

So he told him he would be dead in 15 minutes:)
 
Had to shoot a Tup for a Shepherd near Callander it had been bitten in the face, head swollen to four times the normal size, mouth and nose had turned black.
 
We used to go shooting up in the hills above St Tropez where they grew cork trees for the bottling factories when I was younger, lots younger :roll: hey ho, we were bemused to see the ground was littered with small guage shotty cartridges.
In the Garden centre where we bought our ammo they sold small flare pistols converted to take these small guage cartridges so the mystery deepened even further and as we spoke little french being typical English teenagers could not find an answer.

One afternoon I was sat in the bar and a couple of the guys came in from hunting looking white as sheets, what's wrong we all asked?

They told us that they were out walking round looking for something to take a pop at when they spotted what they thought was a rabbit or whatever running throught the grass, they got the guns up and waited for the "rabbit" to run out of the tall grass, they were confronted wityh a very annoyed huge black snake they reckoned it stood one it's tail looked them in the eye .. apprently **** themselves and legged it ..

The obvious question was asked why the f**k didn't you shoot it they looked at each other gormlessly and said you just had to be there ...:D

One of the local girls was ****ing herself laughing told us that the snakes came over from Africa on the boats escaped at Marseille port just down the coast and had taken up residence, all the area was infested with snakes and the farmer wondered why these crazy English kids wanted to shoot up there when no one else did, weird buggers down there think they were waiting for us to have an "event" so they could take the **** :lol:
The girl tols us that apparently all the shells were from the cork cutters working up there disturbing the snakes they all carried these little flare guns!!

I went up again and never saw a snake but was very wary after that.
 
A few adders up this neck of the woods, but it's generally a bit on the wet side for them. I find that they are either a bit sleepy by being chilled or feel your vibration coming and get out of the way.

I did once have a bit of a confrontation with a female adder on a hot afternoon and she was a big large golden girl who seemed determined to hold her ground. I was almost nose-to-nose with her in heather - crawling uphill with the 'rifle' guest just behind me. The 'rifle' got a bit of a shock when she saw me swing my stick gently through the air in order to deposit this thing looped around it.
I was either that or spoil the stalk as the stags were just above us. (The only way in).
I don't know what effect a bite on the head would have, but the lady was obviously a bit nervouse about what might be crawling up behind her. The only bites that I've heard about in late years - related to me by shooting guests - have been down on the sandy gorse dunes in the South of England.

Ticks :- we are sometimes heaving with them. Three stages of life. Larval, nymphal and adult. The larval and nymphal are really pinhead things which get in there unnoticed and cause an itch. Before you know it you have a red sore with absent-minded scratching and it itches for days.

I've had ticks in unmentionable places and they are difficult to get out. Cover them in any greasy potent ointment such as tiger balm and after a while they tend to weaken their hold as they breathe through spiracles in their bodies.

If you get really lousy with them, a soak in a hot bath with plenty dettol is useful. The trick is to get out of the bath before you expire along with the ticks.

Wading through shoreline creeks in Brunei and Borneo put my hair on end. My gonads were pulled in like walnuts with the thought of water snakes. I don't envy Harley hunting in an environment where just about everything that crawls can bite badly or give you a painful exit.
 
I meant to mention :- Spread dettol on your socks above your boots then wear lightweight gaiters. Even rub a bit on your britches bottoms. It helps discourage the ticks.
Personal and sounding daft, but lubricate private areas with germolene befoe a trip to the hill. It aint sexy but what would want to go there after that ! Getting a deep-lodged tick in such places makes for an interesting time.
 
ha ha wish we had the odd brown up here,
Mannlicher_Stu said:
I heard of a story about a guy in Ozz who was having a tom tit with his strides down when a snake struck his nadgers.

The guy said to his mate ring the flying doctor quick I think thats one of those brown whatever snakes


His mate rang the Flying doctor and described what had happened and the doc said I am over 2000 miles away from you and you need to act quickkly and make an incision at the bite with a knife and suck out all the poison, if you dont do it right away he will be dead in 15 minutes.

So he went back to his mate and his mate said what did the flying Doc say

So he told him he would be dead in 15 minutes:)
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