Thanks, I would have thought that a round stuck in the barrel would take more than a rod to remove it? I thought it was more a suggestion to make sure the barrel is clear?
Always always always check !
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Muzzle, the bullet will always be closer to the chamber if the powder hasn't ignited.
Cut the rod to be 1-2" longer than the barrel, then it won't flex too much and won't impact on the crown, ally is softer than steel but hammering the rod so that an edge is pushing against the crown is not a good idea.
Thanks for the advice.. appreciated.
I had one stuck and it came out quite easily with a cleaning rod. Fortunately, my bullet had only travelled a very short way so the next round couldn't be chambered.
As has already been said, check it there's the slightest doubt that the round hasn't sounded normal in every way.
As has already been said, check it there's the slightest doubt that the round hasn't sounded normal in every way.
Smellydog
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What was the brand of ammo again please?
I had it happen to me but I was lucky in that the stuck bullet prevented the next round chambering, oddly whilst also engaging with squirrels!
It was old Remington ammo and won't use it again ever.
I have not had this issue with Hornady or CCI.
Whilst it is possible the ingress of moister hampers ignition there are other factors.
The lands are obviously far away from the bullet in battery allowing a lot of free bore and we must not forget the importance of initial resistance via neck tension gripping the bullet to aid thorough ignition of the powder which is usually spherical for ease of accurate metering at the factory and very often is fussy about igniting!
I would like to know the brand of ammo.
I had it happen to me but I was lucky in that the stuck bullet prevented the next round chambering, oddly whilst also engaging with squirrels!
It was old Remington ammo and won't use it again ever.
I have not had this issue with Hornady or CCI.
Whilst it is possible the ingress of moister hampers ignition there are other factors.
The lands are obviously far away from the bullet in battery allowing a lot of free bore and we must not forget the importance of initial resistance via neck tension gripping the bullet to aid thorough ignition of the powder which is usually spherical for ease of accurate metering at the factory and very often is fussy about igniting!
I would like to know the brand of ammo.
ChesterP
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That's a very good point @Smellydog. Neck tension can drastically affect pressures and if split necks are present but hard to spot, one assumes that neck tension is very low and that initial pressure rise is negated by early movement of the bullet from the case, further causing poor obturation and resulting insufficient pressure rise to swage the bullet through the barrel as pressure is effectively being relieved by the extra volume created behind the bullet's early entry to the lands and rifling.
Smellydog
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Years ago pre internet there was many an article about "flame out" situations associated with spherical powders. Especially low fill %. Spherical needs a concentration of primer flame and then another nano second to allow the flame front to establish. With no resistance all the contents moves forward. Although it is only a slight amount it can cause the process to halt and even restart with disastrous results. Most military ammunition using spherical is heavily crimped. Radway green ammo is even glued in or it was!
When my HMR did it it did reignite and proliferated corrosive elements in the magazine and action. Thankfully that is all it did!
Smellydog
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Whilst work hardening brass is an issue with HMR I think it is only fair to point out that I have experienced center fire ammunition issues.
I have not bought much factory ammo in my life, mostly reloaded. There was the one time a 222 factory round blew it's primer pocket with an almighty bang and a strange recoil impulse that had my ears ringing for days, a classic flame out circumstance. A friend had a similar thing from a 7mm Rem mag.
Another friend had his bolt stuck in his face from a detonated 6.5 Swede factory round.
It happens. That is why there are venting holes on most actions.
I agree HMR has suffered terribly but it all seemed to start around the late nineties and I often wonder how much of that bad ammo is still about?
It was only a couple of years ago that I bought hundreds of HMR ammunition from that period going cheap because of said issue.
I knew what to expect and as I used it up inspected it for cracks.
I still took any amount of vermin with it all near enough.
Still don't know what brand this happened to the op???
I have not bought much factory ammo in my life, mostly reloaded. There was the one time a 222 factory round blew it's primer pocket with an almighty bang and a strange recoil impulse that had my ears ringing for days, a classic flame out circumstance. A friend had a similar thing from a 7mm Rem mag.
Another friend had his bolt stuck in his face from a detonated 6.5 Swede factory round.
It happens. That is why there are venting holes on most actions.
I agree HMR has suffered terribly but it all seemed to start around the late nineties and I often wonder how much of that bad ammo is still about?
It was only a couple of years ago that I bought hundreds of HMR ammunition from that period going cheap because of said issue.
I knew what to expect and as I used it up inspected it for cracks.
I still took any amount of vermin with it all near enough.
Still don't know what brand this happened to the op???
Guys - just an update and eventual end to this story - i did complain about the manufacturing and it was deemed to be a fault and i have just received compensation for the damage done.
It has taken many many many emails and phone calls and many hours but was perhaps worth it.
Again guys - and i realise in many/most instance i am preaching to the converted for which i apologise - but please be careful !
It has taken many many many emails and phone calls and many hours but was perhaps worth it.
Again guys - and i realise in many/most instance i am preaching to the converted for which i apologise - but please be careful !
Good result, well done for sticking to it.
Yeah i thought mine was ace Smelly but it really put me off as you can imagine - so i bought a .204 - which is too much for what i do - so i think i may sell that and go back to HMR with eyes wide open !
Smellydog
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It's the squirrels fault, they use a tactic to draw your fire, especially when they suspect it's a HMR!
TringSaint
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Sometimes all you get is a click. Other times it’s a tiny recoil.
First rule of hmr shooting is that there are no rules!
Second rule is if it doesn’t sound right then check the barrel.
Saves you blowing out your mag and the arse of your pants at the same time!
First rule of hmr shooting is that there are no rules!
Second rule is if it doesn’t sound right then check the barrel.
Saves you blowing out your mag and the arse of your pants at the same time!
Why not go for a .22WMR? Same sort of thing but not necked down so doesn't have the same issues. That'll be plenty good enough for 100 yard squirrels with light bullets.
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