Apparently illegally rewilding is Gods work 🤔

[Goingback]

Gods work you say…..
Best get some legal big guns in then.
I hear S.Claus & T .Fairy are a good firm and come down hard on lack of hairy beaver habitat maintenance.
I learnt at a young age that entering areas of poorly maintained beaver habitat was a risky and sometimes an unpleasant experience. Took a while to learn from my mistakes back then but discovered that certain pungent aromas and unsprung traps could lead to disease and unpleasant trips to the clinic

I think that you will find that since your youth, beaver habitat is now cut back to the roots to minimise any scrub. Sadly the pungent aroma is still present although I believe that beaver is still a large factor in the perfume and cosmetic sector

 

[Dunwaters]

The release of pheasant and redlegs is done under a General Licence. So on that there is no comparison with illegal beaver release and mallard are a native species.

A mere lawyers quibble that doesn’t address the main argument.
We, ( shooter and stalkers both) have been deliberately transporting animals and releasing them where they dont belong for centuries.
That is why the DNA of just about every European game species, both bird and mammal is a mess.
We imported Wapiti and Central European red deer to “ improve “ our native stock, we brought in Hungarian partridge, we brought in red legged partridge, we deliberately transported alien species into areas where they didn’t exist to improve sporting opportunities. Don’t try to convince me that the spread of both muntjac and boar wasn’t accelerated in vans via the motorways.
It’s been done quite deliberately for over a hundred years, so pardon me if I don’t get too upset over a few oversized guinea pigs being slipped into local lakes or rivers.
In case you think I’m against it, I release pheasant and mallard every year, I would also happily go back to the 70’s and import a few Transit loads of roe and munty to Wicklow.
Beaver are pretty big, if they become a problem they’ll be dealt with.

 

[enfieldspares]

And what next? Some do-gooding folk spreading so called "God's work" and free releasing flumps next?

 

[timbrayford]

Am I the only one that thinks the outrage expressed here because someone is doing with beaver exactly what shooters did with muntjac, roe and boar for decades, and which they continue to do on an annual basis with pheasants, mallard and french partridge is just a wee bit hypocritical?

Difference is that all the creatures that you mention apart from the beaver may be lawfully culled if not welcome on the land

 

[FISH BOY]

Excuse my ignorance, but where the hell do you get a beaver from in the first place?

Taking it from one river/pond to another is classed as rewilding?

 

[Mr. Gain]

Beaver are pretty big, if they become a problem they’ll be dealt with.

And there's the rub: they won't. There is simply too much blanket protection given to most species already, with insufficient freedom to control species that become a problem locally, for it to be wise to trust in a future where a problem can be dealt with. Such licences as are notionally available to control protected species are too restrictive, too hard to get, and too slow to be issued to be fit for purpose - and that's just for things that aren't fluffy. Beaver are a particular case for concern because they have a greater environmental impact than any other introduced species, including boar. In the right place that impact may be a positive thing, but random releases are quite another matter.

 

[Dunwaters]

A mere lawyers quibble that doesn’t address the main argument.
We, ( shooter and stalkers both) have been deliberately transporting animals and releasing them where they dont belong for centuries.
That is why the DNA of just about every European game species, both bird and mammal is a mess.
We imported Wapiti and Central European red deer to “ improve “ our native stock, we brought in Hungarian partridge, we brought in red legged partridge, we deliberately transported alien species into areas where they didn’t exist to improve sporting opportunities. Don’t try to convince me that the spread of both muntjac and boar wasn’t accelerated in vans via the motorways.
It’s been done quite deliberately for over a hundred years, so pardon me if I don’t get too upset over a few oversized guinea pigs being slipped into local lakes or rivers.

And there's the rub: they won't. There is simply too much blanket protection given to most species already, with insufficient freedom to control species that become a problem locally, for it to be wise to trust in a future where a problem can be dealt with. Such licences as are notionally available to control protected species are too restrictive, too hard to get, and too slow to be issued to be fit for purpose - and that's just for things that aren't fluffy. Beaver are a particular case for concern because they have a greater environmental impact than any other introduced species, including boar. In the right place that impact may be a positive thing, but random releases are quite another matter.

Maybe you’re right, but maybe “ random releases “ are the trigger to permit control as required. My last beaver hunt ( of which the less asked the better) was in a suburban lake, complete with dog walkers and strollers.
The lake was a water source for the town and there was guardia in the water from the beaver crap. People were also ****ed off having their shade trees and orchards cut down.
Nature is wonderful on holiday, not so great on a daily basis.

 

[nun_hunter]

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Unusual excuse for doing what the hell you want without any thoughts to what happens afterwards.

To be fair that pretty much sums up all religions, especially those that led to war, genocide, invasions and missionary work.

 

[Mountain Bug]

Nature is wonderful on holiday, not so great on a daily basis.

Very well said.


Scott