Arkens Zulus 3X or 5X

[BenBhoy]

Soooo - tempted by the current offers on the Zulus (and the auto record function) but not sure if I should go for the 3 or 5X version for my .222 - anyone with real world experience who can offer advice please? Also for the Remmy 700 is it the 0MOA S or 35 MOA L Rail?
Thanks chaps.

I'm tempted too. Just wish it was 30mm body. Leaning more towards pard DS35-70 purely for that reason.

 

[Foxyboy43]

I'm tempted too. Just wish it was 30mm body. Leaning more towards pard DS35-70 purely for that reason.

Good SD pal above has just offered to let me play with his 5x to help me (finally) decide - how could I possibly refuse?

 

[Foxyboy43]

I've got the 5-20 and if using the PIP function I barely go over 5X anyway and when I have gone up to over 15X I've found the quality of the image degrades more than the benefits of zooming in further.

With this in mind I would go for the 3-12 and use the PIP function when shooting and enjoy the wider field of view. The 0moa rail is better for CF cartridges to keep the reticle in the centre of the screen.

Exactly my thinking too - on my 008P Pard I rarely would be higher than the base 7X.
Thanks for your advice NH.

 

[Foxyboy43]

@Foxyboy43 auto record works well on both gen 1&2 alpex on my .222, and no rails necessary

Ouch!
But thanks - I think….

 

[nun_hunter]

Yes, so there is no point using the pip. If I range a target at 250 I have to use the main screen. Anything closer is easily shot without the pip. Seems pointless.
Any pixelation isn't really that bad and successful shots are made .
Thanks though

I find it easy as both images are in the same screen, means I can keep the mag at 5X and use the main screen to range and locate targets then without zooming or touching anything use the PIP for a detailed and precise aim.

Like you say, the PIP isn't essential for closer shots but having it there saves pressing additional buttons and doesn't interfere with the main image or ranging.

 

[mealiejimmy]

The PiP magnification is fixed at double whatever the main screen magnification is

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Smellydog]

I find it easy as both images are in the same screen, means I can keep the mag at 5X and use the main screen to range and locate targets then without zooming or touching anything use the PIP for a detailed and precise aim.

Like you say, the PIP isn't essential for closer shots but having it there saves pressing additional buttons and doesn't interfere with the main image or ranging.

So are you guessing hold over?

 

[nun_hunter]

So are you guessing hold over?

No still using the LRF and the 'dial in' option rather than the holdover with secondary aiming point.

I have successfully (although possibly incorrectly) been assuming that using the dial in method also moves the reticle for the PIP image. It's been working for me so far so I have no reason to assume this isn't what's happening.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Thanks Nun Hunter - “having it there saves pressing additional buttons”
Well that gets my vote then!

 

[mealiejimmy]

If using the LRF and ballistic calculator, the reticle in the PiP is always in dial in mode
Put the scope in holdover mode, range a target and get the holdover mark
Note that the reticle in the PiP is on exactly the same point as the holdover mark on the main reticle

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Smellydog]

If using the LRF and ballistic calculator, the reticle in the PiP is always in dial in mode
Put the scope in holdover mode, range a target and get the holdover mark
Note that the reticle in the PiP is on exactly the same point as the holdover mark on the main reticle

Cheers

Bruce

Cheers Bruce, so the pip ret does move?

 

[mealiejimmy]

The centre of the ret in the PiP is always in the centre of the PiP window - it never shows a holdover mark
When the BC is not being used, the centre of the ret in PiP tracks the centre of the ret in the main screen.
When the BC is being used and the scope is in holdover mode, the centre of the ret in the PiP tracks the holdover mark
When the BC is being used and the scope is in dial in mode, the ret in the main screen moves so that the centre of the ret is the POA. In this case the ret in the PiP does what it normally does and tracks the centre of the ret in the main screen

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Foxyboy43]

If using the LRF and ballistic calculator, the reticle in the PiP is always in dial in mode
Put the scope in holdover mode, range a target and get the holdover mark
Note that the reticle in the PiP is on exactly the same point as the holdover mark on the main reticle

Cheers

Bruce

Excellent advice to all as usual, thank you sir.

 

[Foxyboy43]

The centre of the ret in the PiP is always in the centre of the PiP window - it never shows a holdover mark
When the BC is not being used, the centre of the ret in PiP tracks the centre of the ret in the main screen.
When the BC is being used and the scope is in holdover mode, the centre of the ret in the PiP tracks the holdover mark
When the BC is being used and the scope is in dial in mode, the ret in the main screen moves so that the centre of the ret is the POA. In this case the ret in the PiP does what it normally does and tracks the centre of the ret in the main screen

Cheers

Bruce

Excuse me, I may just have to lie down….

 

[nun_hunter]

Cheers Bruce, so the pip ret does move?

In between my original post #28 and @mealiejimmy replying I did email Arken to confirm what I thought was happening with the reticle in the PIP and they replied to say that the PIP reticle does adjust to the compensated position if you're using the LRF and BC.

 

[Smellydog]

In between my original post #28 and @mealiejimmy replying I did email Arken to confirm what I thought was happening with the reticle in the PIP and they replied to say that the PIP reticle does adjust to the compensated position if you're using the LRF and BC.

Thanks for that.
Ill give it a try next time.
In fact, ill go and set it up now

 

[Lone wolf]

I have the x5 version and absolutely love it, I have had it on my Fac airgun, .17HMR and my .223

Worked great on all 3, I'm awaiting the x3 version to land so I can pit that on my FAC airgun as the base mag is lower and the LRF works below 10yrds, ideal for ratting.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Thanks for that.
Ill give it a try next time.
In fact, ill go and set it up now

 

[Foxyboy43]

Err, AGF member “doesn’t exist” per Blackwood….

Update on discount thingie.
I emailed Blackwood and a very helpful Leeann very quickly responded and advised that they had to remove the AGF code from their site but they would still give me the 10% discount on the Zulus 5-20 LRF - how could a chap resist the wiles of an obviously beautiful woman? Deal done and winging it’s way to me for delivery on Weds. which gives me two days to re-read this thread….
Sooo a big shout out to Blackwood and an equally big thank you to Bruce!

 

[Pellet Pinger]

I'm tempted too. Just wish it was 30mm body. Leaning more towards pard DS35-70 purely for that reason.

Ben if you want to have a go with my Zulus one evening give me a shout, im only down the road.