Basc voluntary lead ban
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enfieldspares
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I won't even consider any driven day that incorporates a dedicated duck drive. Although I do carry maybe four or five bismuth form those drives where you're forewarned that there's a "splash" where duck might be put up. But dedicated duck drives are not for me.
Anyone heard whether BASC is accepting this - although I suppose they would not wish to publish it since - " no evidence - no change" was the vaunted position previously. One would wonder , if this is true, whether they would like Swift back, to help them swallow the bitter pill ?
Have they asked their membership ? Maybe this is another "we know best".
Still let's have the truth before this becomes a BASCfest.
Yes, I really said that, with confidence, since if we succeed with JR, BASC's viewpoint is rendered irrelevant.
Their website is NOT suggesting this, so it is probably a fart in a colander.
Have they asked their membership ? Maybe this is another "we know best".
Still let's have the truth before this becomes a BASCfest.
Yes, I really said that, with confidence, since if we succeed with JR, BASC's viewpoint is rendered irrelevant.
Their website is NOT suggesting this, so it is probably a fart in a colander.
Woodsmoke
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Nor me. The last shoot I was a member of had a pond on which the ducks were tame as pets. It used to sicken me to see them pushed off the water and shot as they repeatedly tried to circle back . . . .
It was one of the main reasons I took a step back from game shooting.
Sounds like its about turn without any " sound information- no...........".
You really could not make this up.
reloader54
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keywords are likely to be "robust", welcomes",
a search revealed this. Lead ammunition – Your questions & answers - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation
enfieldspares
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And spoken with an authoritative voice too no doubt?
Roestalker39
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What continues to blow my mind is the die hard basc members will defend basc on this and keep handing over thier subs ....
reloader54
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I see a possible division between shotgun owners, and rifle owners, the latter being able to utilise alternatives to lead far more than shotgunners.
just what shooting needed,,, more division.
merlin
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....and let's not forget about users of air rifles. Such as me. Lead pellets work very well on the local grey squirrels, rats etc.
Even more division....?
Roestalker39
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That’s a good point which I previously didn’t think about , I also on occasion use an airgun for squirrel control
I spoke to a local gun dealer today (whilst buying some ammunition). I mentioned the BASC self -imposed ban on lead shot probably being announced on Monday and suggested he would be lowering the price of his older 'best English' guns. He was of the mind that "they will find a way around it".
Hope springs eternal.
I also mentioned the 'medicals issue' and he was unaware, but will welcome a notice being posted in his shop if a JR is launched, calling for financial support.
Hope springs eternal.
I also mentioned the 'medicals issue' and he was unaware, but will welcome a notice being posted in his shop if a JR is launched, calling for financial support.
How can you have a Voluntary ban on something that is already banned????
Steel is cheaper than lead these days. Its only bismuth or similar that costs an arm and a leg and effects the old guns. Personally I prefer using steel to lead for all of my shotgun shooting and cannot see an issue with it.... however if you do not have steel proofed barrels, i can see a financial implication. lots of game dealers now will not take pigeons shot with lead already
enfieldspares
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Steel can, yes, be used in shotguns that aren't steel proofed. The cartridges are called "Standard Steel".
But that a thing has passed prrof for "X" doesn't mean that it is advisable to day out and day in fire "X" through it. A case in point was Smith & Wesson's Model 19 revolver. Yes it was in .357 Magnum and passed, easily, even UK Proof for .357 Magnum. But firing .357 Magnum through it day out and day in wasn't good sense.
Only steel proofed guns can use, however, "High Performance Steel". But it's not just about barrels it's about the hammering that the action will take and/or the gun coming off the face. Just as my Smith & Wesson Model 19 analogy.
And last I value my teeth too much to even consider eating game shot with steel pellets.
But that a thing has passed prrof for "X" doesn't mean that it is advisable to day out and day in fire "X" through it. A case in point was Smith & Wesson's Model 19 revolver. Yes it was in .357 Magnum and passed, easily, even UK Proof for .357 Magnum. But firing .357 Magnum through it day out and day in wasn't good sense.
Only steel proofed guns can use, however, "High Performance Steel". But it's not just about barrels it's about the hammering that the action will take and/or the gun coming off the face. Just as my Smith & Wesson Model 19 analogy.
And last I value my teeth too much to even consider eating game shot with steel pellets.
Richiepolecat
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A ban is happening, no doubt about it.
Banning things is the way of the world. Or more accurately the UK. Also in today's news, they are going to ban the sale of normal coal for coal fires and wood that isn't seasoned enough. Because fires with those are polluting much more than diesel lorries. It's all Australia's fault!
All part and parcel of the 'net zero by 2040' commitment which will become more loudly expressed as time passes.
Plastic shotgun cartridge cases are a prime target here and a concern to some shooting estates already.
Moral is as always pick up your litter and other peoples.
Plastic shotgun cartridge cases are a prime target here and a concern to some shooting estates already.
Moral is as always pick up your litter and other peoples.
