Blaser Double Rifle Regulation
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Jagare
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I was looking at 2 at the local gun shop a couple of days ago. A 9.3x74R and a.375 H&H. For a double rifle the are bloody ugly and look like a club. The 9.3x74R did handle nice though. My mate who was over from England hunting with me and he said he had one once in 30R Blaser and hated the thing. The BB97 is a much nicer rifle. There's one on the rack at the LGS in 8x57jrs with the soldered barrels. A very tidy and handy rifle
I think the Safari version was less popular due to a couple things. The grip angle was a tad tight, the tilting block gets in the way, it was a little heavy (which isn't a bad thing) but it didn't handle that weight well so it felt a little clubby.
That been said all these things can be put down to personal preference. What really was the issue was the auto safety/decocking feature, break the gun and it decocks itself. Sure, one can learn to cock the rifle after every reload but with many doubles on the market that don't require that, especially the Krieghoff which offers the safety of a decocker but remains cocked after reloads, it put off a lot of people who had got used to non-auto safety doubles.
That been said all these things can be put down to personal preference. What really was the issue was the auto safety/decocking feature, break the gun and it decocks itself. Sure, one can learn to cock the rifle after every reload but with many doubles on the market that don't require that, especially the Krieghoff which offers the safety of a decocker but remains cocked after reloads, it put off a lot of people who had got used to non-auto safety doubles.
I agree but it's a dumb feature and one that undoubtedly put people off. The issue isn't with people who have never had a double rifle before or those who have always had auto safeties, it's with people who have other doubles that don't have auto safeties. No different to going from double to single trigger or vice versa.
I wouldnt have a double in a belted or Rimless cartridge anyway but ejectors vs extractors is a personal choice, on a new double I think I'd rather have ejectors.
Roro
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Thats a bit stupid alright, especially with such an expensive rifle, even a cheapo turkish shotgun has ejectors.
alberta boy
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I have to agree with you . If the game I'm after requires a 375 H&H , I want ejectors ......... reliable and energetic ones .
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Heym SR20
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A break action rifle with a rimmed cartridge doesn't need ejectors, just tip barrels up and case fall out. Safety being automatic on a double is not an issue - safety should be slid forward as it is mounted and for anybody who shoots birds with a double, this becomes automatic.
The problem with those Blasers is that their balance is all wrong. A double rifle should handle like a fine double shotgun and instinctively point in the right direction. Properly balanced with the weight distribution between the hands, their weight disappears when you handle them. Have handled a few Blaser doubles at auctions and shows and they don't handle at well and just feel cumbersome.
I agree and have said as much above, the issue however arises if one has doubles that don't have auto safeties. The potential to mess up in a high stress situation is too high. As I said, if one doesn't have doubles without auto safeties or one only has the Blaser then that does irradiate the potential to not cock the action.
It does however remain that auto safeties/decockers are a completely useless feature, the design wouldn't be hindered in anyway by not having it. If one has a double rifle that doesn't have an auto safety/decocker and, after reloading, redundantly tries to remove the safety or cock the action outnof habit then nothing bad happens. If one does have auto safety or decocker then forgets to take the rifle off safe or cock the action then something bad can happen very fast.
If they served a useful purpose then maybe, just maybe, they would be worth the potential issues but they simply do not.
Heym SR20
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I have been fortunate to handle a good mix of double rifles in a range of big game calibres in both boxlock and sidelock. What immediately strikes when you shoulder a good double is that it seems to come to life and you feel you could tackle a fast flying partridge or teal, let alone some big and grumpy, even though it weighs 10lbs plus. If you look at most fine double rifles all the weight and thickness is at the breach end leaving the muzzle pretty thin walled.
Many of the german doubles have their weight much further forward. Allows for a steadier hold and a smother swing. Not surprising given that their main use will be steady shots from a highseat or a crossing shot at running pigs.
A british double rifle's job is to put two knock out blows into an inbound animal whose weight is measured in tons and you need to shoot a clay pigeon sized brain from a distance measured in feet.
1st Pattern Paul
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Interesting thread this, I've been looking at possibly getting an S2. I agree they are only really a Boar rifle and not suitable for DG, but nice guns none the less.
Agree and re Roro post, Having shot in Africa quite a lot I can tell you at the ranges you are using a double rifle with open sights on Buff or Elephant you will not get more than 2 rounds off even at incoming The target is generally sub 35 yards. (the PH exam will not have you shoot in self defence legally unless the Elephant for e.g. is sub 10 yards as mock charges are common - good luck if you can get more than 1 off even!) You want a non auto safety (so you don't forget to push it off when **** happening) and non ejectors. You want as little as possible to go wrong with the rifle as possible. As said you just open and tip it upside down and reload. Another example, The reason a K98 mauser is the action of choice is because you can reload it upside down in case you happen to be being mauled at the time!
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jthyttin
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Actually I wouldn't want to try this. I've personally been in kind of a "deadlock" when I had shot pump action shotgun quite a bit and then one day tried my friend's semiauto. Wouldn't want to waste few seconds in DG situation...
I agree that German "safety thinking" creates more problems than it solves. And Blaser manual cocking system is stupid, very stupid.
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