Breaking in a new rifle...?

[bewsher500]

Bewsher - I take your point, obviously there are bargains to be had. Last time in my neck of the woods I cast my eye over a rack of rifles the secondhand ones appeared to have averaged around the £300/350 mark - different areas different prices no doubt. Your £80 cost I assumed did not include Proof House costs and the accompanying TNT transit costs?
Peter

ah that is the issue.
Gunshops dont do deals on 2nd hand rifles. they sell new ones. that tends to be all they are interested in. The stuff on the shelves is there to negate the need for putting up posters and decorating

buy privately.

My £80 factors in the fuel it cost me to drive there twice and deliver/pick up!

 

[Muir]

As you can imagine, we have a large market in used firearms. Both of the .224 bores -one a Savage and the other Winchester- cost $300 total. Both looked tattered but had great looking barrels.~Muir

 

[PeterH]

Peter there is nothing in law that required a screw cut or shortened muzzle to be re-proofed........................................... nothing.

Yes Brit I am aware of that - but as the 'Jackson' case revealed there is a slight grey area mainly centred around the word 'unduly' - at least as far as the Proof House is concerned.

 

[User00023]

Conversion of Barrels and the Fitting of

Muzzle Accessories

​

The British Proof Authority wish to clarify the proof status of small arms converted to accept muzzle attachments and the proof requirements of the attachment.

The following advice applies to cartridge operated smallarms of all calibres, not including air weapons and their accessories.

The Trade and the public are advised that the barrels of small arms fitted with sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes,etc. require to be proof tested. In addition any barrel of any small arm previously proved but subsequently converted by a manufacturing process, resulting in a reduction in substance or strength, to accept the fitting of sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes, etc., will require the arms to be reproved. This advice also applies to any alteration to the internal dimensions of the barrel affecting bore size or chamber lengths in excess of permitted tolerances.

Muzzle attachments through which any part of the charge would be exploded or discharged form part of the barrel and also require to be proof tested and marked accordingly.


The London Proof House
48-50 Commercial Road
London E1 1LP

or

The Birmingham Proof House
BanburyStreet
Birmingham B5 5RH


October 2001


http://www.gunproof.com/Proof_Memoranda/conversion.doc

 

[sikadog]

Take out of box clean shoot without getting the barrel too hot for the first 50 rounds after that what the hell enjoy the rifle

 

[Brithunter]

Yes Brit I am aware of that - but as the 'Jackson' case revealed there is a slight grey area mainly centred around the word 'unduly' - at least as far as the Proof House is concerned.

The prrof house is only worried bout their income nothing more. After all they got in line behind the CIP when it was suggested that ever gun be re-proofed every few years despite them telling us never to over load them they then wanted to do the same and charge us for it.


Yes I am cynical.

 

[User00023]

“The cynic is one who never sees a good quality in a man, and never fails to see a bad one. He is the human owl, vigilant in darkness and blind to light, mousing for vermin, and never seeing noble game. The cynic puts all human actions into two classes - openly bad and secretly bad.” Henry Ward Beecher

“A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.”
H. L. Mencken

“A cynic is not merely one who reads bitter lessons from the past, he is one who is prematurely disappointed in the future.” Sidney J. Harris

 

[finnbear270]

Some hard hitting verse there mate.

 

[sikadog]

Never a better word was said

 

[bewsher500]

Conversion of Barrels and the Fitting of

Muzzle Accessories

​

The British Proof Authority wish to clarify the proof status of small arms converted to accept muzzle attachments and the proof requirements of the attachment.

The following advice applies to cartridge operated smallarms of all calibres, not including air weapons and their accessories.

The Trade and the public are advised that the barrels of small arms fitted with sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes,etc. require to be proof tested. In addition any barrel of any small arm previously proved but subsequently converted by a manufacturing process, resulting in a reduction in substance or strength, to accept the fitting of sound moderators, screw in choke tubes, muzzle brakes, etc., will require the arms to be reproved. This advice also applies to any alteration to the internal dimensions of the barrel affecting bore size or chamber lengths in excess of permitted tolerances.

Muzzle attachments through which any part of the charge would be exploded or discharged form part of the barrel and also require to be proof tested and marked accordingly.


The London Proof House
48-50 Commercial Road
London E1 1LP

or

The Birmingham Proof House
BanburyStreet
Birmingham B5 5RH


October 2001


http://www.gunproof.com/Proof_Memoranda/conversion.doc

not a single moderator I have ever bought or owned has a proof stamp.
RFD's the country over have unproofed screwcut rifles sitting on their shelves.
most RFD's will screwcut without proofing unless they do the work on a rifle they own and then need to sell (the buck stops with the machinist and vendor if there is a failure as a result of the screwcutting, if it is your rifle then it is up to you if you get it reproofed)

The above statement is a memorandum not a note of law.
as far as I am aware no aspect of Firearms law indicates reproofing with regard to cut down or screw cut barrels, any more than it does when you have your bolt jingly jangly fluted for some bling

 

[Si-snipe]

I've always cleaned, shot, cleaned shot 3-5 then clean and shoot as normal. Always had good accurate barrel life out of my rifles.

 

[Si-snipe]

I've done this with factory and match (hand lapped) barrels. I'm also a big believer in hand lapping factory barrels to reduce fouling and break in procedure along with regular intervals of hand lapping throughout the barrel life eg every 500 shots a light JB session to reduce imperfections and ultimately fouling.

 

[Muir]

I've done this with factory and match (hand lapped) barrels. I'm also a big believer in hand lapping factory barrels to reduce fouling and break in procedure along with regular intervals of hand lapping throughout the barrel life eg every 500 shots a light JB session to reduce imperfections and ultimately fouling.

You do realize that running JB Bore Paste through a barrel on a patch is not "lapping" in the true sense, right? It's just an abrasive cleaning. I see no harm in periodic, judicious use of JB on a rifle barrel but I am curious: How many rifle barrel lives have you used this method throughout? ~Muir

 

[nowler]

another vote for jb bore paste and bore shine. nothing else cleans barrels like it does imho. super stuff used with care!