Bullet puller advice please

Hard crimps can be bypassed by technique. Repeated blows on the press lever with the flat of the hand, it's a learning curve.
I seem to remember a few years ago that @Muir suggested the technique that you could spring the crimp / break the grip initially by pushing the bullet in a few thou with your seating die before you then getting out it with inertia hammer or puller, if the crimp was buried in the bullet.

Alan
 
Hmm. I pulled a dozen copper bullets with my go-to mole grips, which I have used many times before, great job! Then I reloaded them, fantastic, super, awesome. Then I tried to chamber them - no go, wasted time, bullets and guess what - start all over again and bin the bullets. Lesson well learned - copper is nowhere near as forgiving as traditional bullets - any slight over clamping deforms the copper bullet and it simply will not chamber. Everyday a skoolday…..
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Hard crimps can be bypassed by technique. Repeated blows on the press lever with the flat of the hand, it's a learning curve.
That would just cause the RCBS puller to slip off of the bullet unless it is gripping tight, which is what causes the marking to the copper jacket with soft lead underneath.
 
I seem to remember a few years ago that @Muir suggested the technique that you could spring the crimp / break the grip initially by pushing the bullet in a few thou with your seating die before you then getting out it with inertia hammer or puller, if the crimp was buried in the bullet.

Alan
I remember the same.

Either way, with strong neck tension the RCBS slips if it is not gripped hard on the bullet and this can mark the bullet
 
Hmm. I pulled a dozen copper bullets with my go-to mole grips, which I have used many times before, great job! Then I reloaded them, fantastic, super, awesome. Then I tried to chamber them - no go, wasted time, bullets and guess what - start all over again and bin the bullets. Lesson well learned - copper is nowhere near as forgiving as traditional bullets - any slight over clamping deforms the copper bullet and it simply will not chamber. Everyday a skoolday…..
🦊🦊
Maybe the lead bullets were also distorting but going back into shape when chambered?
 
I seem to remember a few years ago that @Muir suggested the technique that you could spring the crimp / break the grip initially by pushing the bullet in a few thou with your seating die before you then getting out it with inertia hammer or puller, if the crimp was buried in the bullet.

Alan
Yup.
~Muir
 
I found that both makes of collet puller when operated on a "Feel" basis rather than locking the lever over has always worked without marking anything.
I would like to learn this (and I’m not being sarcastic) but if it’s not locked then it just pulls off the bullet. What ‘feel’ am I looking for on these bullets to stop it slipping off?
 
Pull down with your operating hand until you feel resistance (as if you are going to squash the bullet with any increase in pressure), then operate the press, if any slippage increase pressure gently on your collet, I will smartly tap the press handle several times to shift stubborn ones, always works,And the tip about further seating well crimped bullets also woks every time. (45/ 70 Govn'mnt in the past).:thumb:
 
Pull down with your operating hand until you feel resistance (as if you are going to squash the bullet with any increase in pressure), then operate the press, if any slippage increase pressure gently on your collet, I will smartly tap the press handle several times to shift stubborn ones, always works,And the tip about further seating well crimped bullets also woks every time. (45/ 70 Govn'mnt in the past).:thumb:
Will give it a go, thanks
 
Adjust the die in so it cannot cam over....Too light a pressure on the lever and the bullet slips out of the collet....so just enough pressure to maintain the grip...easier to feel than describe...

Alan
I am confused as it pulls the bullet on the up stroke so when does cam over come into it?
 
I am confused as it pulls the bullet on the up stroke so when does cam over come into it?

It is called the Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller.

The collet grip is produced by the lever on top which has a cam on the end of it. There is an adjustment on the die to alter the effect of its built in cam on the collet.

I am not referring to the "cam over" that some press lever linkages produce. My Lee one doesn't, but I gather some do.

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Adjust the die in so it cannot cam over
My apologies, that was maybe not written clearly enough for someone not familiar with the tool..."Wind the die adjustment in so it cannot cam over" would have been clearer.

Alan
 
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It is called the Hornady cam lock Bullet Puller.

The collet grip is produced by the lever on top which has a cam on the end of it. There is an adjustment on the die to alter the effect of its built in cam on the collet.

I am not referring to the "cam over" that some press lever linkages produce. My Lee one doesn't, but I gather some do.

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My apologies, that was maybe not written clearly enough for someone not familiar with the tool..."Wind the die adjustment in so it cannot cam over" would have been clearer.

Alan
Right, get you now.

But, as I have written in my posts above I am using the RCBS collet puller, which is a collet puller and so far (yet to try FB’s technique) often marks bullets
 
Pull down with your operating hand until you feel resistance (as if you are going to squash the bullet with any increase in pressure), then operate the press, if any slippage increase pressure gently on your collet, I will smartly tap the press handle several times to shift stubborn ones, always works,And the tip about further seating well crimped bullets also woks every time. (45/ 70 Govn'mnt in the past).:thumb:
@finnbear270 are you using the RCBS or Hornady puller?
 
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