Buying goods on the SD

[finnbear270]

Obviously. Hence having the ability to be calm and sensible and walk away when needed.

And when he kicks off, before you walk away?

 

[purdeydog]

And when he kicks off, before you walk away?

then then then aliens came down! we could do this all day. As above have a calm conversation. If he kicks off then he’s clearly a clown.

 

[Ratel]

To quote one once aimed at me, "I know where you live, and I know you're Mammy".
Being serious report to FEO and contact small claims court.

 

[DavyG]

Would it have been a CZ 527 .22 Hornet…?
DG

 

[gixer1]

Do not go near him or his house - a face-to-face in these circumstances can quickly deteriorate and all it needs is an accusation to be made and your guns and fac will be promptly removed. Frustrating as it is do it formally as a number of members have set out above.

Agreed, If I was in that frame of mind and someone from the SD turned up uninvited the first thing I’d do is call the police and report them as aggressive and harassing.

I understand the want to seek closure and even retribution but the days of turning up at a house are done in this lefty liberal world - and like it or not as an FAC holder it’s even more frowned upon!

Also, if no one else was around and you turned up uninvited some may punch your lights out.

 

[timbrayford]

Sounds criminal. Report to the police.

No, its a civil matter, MCOL next!

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Can you not hire a neutral witness filming the visit etc as was threatened to me by a bolshy tenant last year about a 21 notice to accompany you if you did visit.
I have often bought on SD and have never had an issue, sold some stuff also.

 

[suburban bushwacker]

you have a copy of his FAC
Ring his FEO

 

[Rake Aboot]

Why on earth would you call his FEO
It’s none of their business.

It’s a sale of goods. And you’ve no idea what’s happened until you manage to speak to them.
Either find out if someone on here knows them or make it a civil matter as you have his name and address.

Or simply go round and ask for your money back.

I assume this is @GOMX so does no one on here know him ? Or has dealt with him before ?

 

[finnbear270]

Going round there (His house as opposed to a shop) will be viewed as confrontational at the very least.
This IS how it would be viewed in the event plod gets called.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Being confrontational is not illegal.

 

[Dave31]

Being confrontational is not illegal.

Unless it can be construed as threatening behaviour, in which case it could be deemed an offence under the Public Order Act of 1986.

If you go to a person's house and confront them, especially without neutral witnesses, I would say you are standing into danger.

 

[8x57]

T-D Deer Management you haven't bought a rifle you have simply paid a sum of money to someone.

Yes I know its common practice, but it's long been argued that technically you cannot legally purchase a firearm without first having lawful authority to possess it. If you were to involve the firearms department there is a remote possibility that they would see it as an illegal purchase as you didn't have authority to purchase at the time. Have a read of the conditions on your FAC as I'm sure that this will rekindle a whole new debate, one that's been debated numerous times before.

 

[Rake Aboot]

T-D Deer Management you haven't bought a rifle you have simply paid a sum of money to someone.

Yes I know its common practice, but it's long been argued that technically you cannot legally purchase a firearm without first having lawful authority to possess it. If you were to involve the firearms department there is a remote possibility that they would see it as an illegal purchase as you didn't have authority to purchase at the time. (Have a read of the conditions on your FAC).

Paying for it in advance doesn’t mean you have purchased it. The contract isn’t completed until you take possession of the item.

You are simply placing the full sum as a deposit pending.

 

[Stalker62]

I assume this is [USERxxx) so does no one on here know him ?

Really not a fan of anyone 'assuming' anything and then posting on the back of it.

 

[Rookandrabbit]

I do hope that this matter is sorted out amicably to the mutual benefit of both people. Life however never runs smoothly in my experience.
I looked at the rifle advert and it’s very nice indeed which does not help the buyer @T-D Deer Management.

Having set your heart on a new rifle only to go through such hassle will only take the enjoyment out of it.

I bought a cheap but good scoped Martini from a well known Auction house advertised as .22lr .
Excited and overjoyed at such a bargain collected it from my local dealer and could not wait to take it to my club to shoot.

First cartridge Into chamber…….boom lots of smoke…..it had been converted to.22 magnum rimfire. Cartridge split in chamber!!.

Contacted auction house many apologies,….. sent it back to them I was out of pocket of transfer fees x2 =£100.

No reimbursement by auction house!
Hassle, police informed re certification, joy at purchase of rifle ……..non existent and to be shafted for transfer fees!!!

I hope at best the money is returned to @T-D Deer Management

Regards Rookandrabbit.

 

[8x57]

I do hope that this matter is sorted out amicably to the mutual benefit of both people. Life however never runs smoothly in my experience.
I looked at the rifle advert and it’s very nice indeed which does not help the buyer @T-D Deer Management.

Having set your heart on a new rifle only to go through such hassle will only take the enjoyment out of it.

I bought a cheap but good scoped Martini from a well known Auction house advertised as .22lr .
Excited and overjoyed at such a bargain collected it from my local dealer and could not wait to take it to my club to shoot.

First cartridge Into chamber…….boom lots of smoke…..it had been converted to.22 magnum rimfire. Cartridge split in chamber!!.

Contacted auction house many apologies,….. sent it back to them I was out of pocket of transfer fees x2 =£100.

No reimbursement by auction house!
Hassle, police informed re certification, joy at purchase of rifle ……..non existent and to be shafted for transfer fees!!!

I hope at best the money is returned to @T-D Deer Management

Regards Rookandrabbit.

That was misrepresentation if it was advertised as .22lr and as such I would have thought that the auction house would have been responsible for the transfer fees as it was miss-sold.
I am also wondering if the rifle was submitted for proof following conversion if not the auction house may have committed an offence by selling a rifle out of proof.

 

[Frank Homes]

Really not a fan of anyone 'assuming' anything and then posting on the back of it.

It doesn't take a genius to work out exactly who it is.

 

[Rookandrabbit]

Don’t wish to ambush the thread but it had been reproofed as .22 Mag!!! Advertised as .22lr!

Again I hope @T-D Deer Management gets his money back as it will directly affect their enjoyment with the rifle!
Regards Rookandrabbit

 

[T-D Deer Management]

T-D Deer Management you haven't bought a rifle you have simply paid a sum of money to someone.

Yes I know its common practice, but it's long been argued that technically you cannot legally purchase a firearm without first having lawful authority to possess it. If you were to involve the firearms department there is a remote possibility that they would see it as an illegal purchase as you didn't have authority to purchase at the time. Have a read of the conditions on your FAC as I'm sure that this will rekindle a whole new debate, one that's been debated numerous times before.

Just to be clear.

I do not have a copy of his certificate as he told me the gun is stored at an rfd which was going to be sent straight from them.

I do not want any confrontation with him over £150 - it is just the mere principle of buying something in good faith and then no response.

I have today however spoken to the rfd who holds the rifle and the situation has been resolved. The rfd himself has had poor communication & lack of payment for gun storage - but he has had some communication, showing he isn’t dead or has had any particular issues. He just seems to be being difficult.