Canada Geese 22lr.

[Morkai]

because they arrive at the target after the muzzle blast has gone . You have plainly never knowingly had a ricochet with a supersonic round but if you have shot a reasonable amount you have definitely had ricochets occur . think the ""tink" of a 22 lr hitting steel has quite a delay to get back to you ...
Not going any further with this

Ah, another one of your replies where you had enough of people challenging you, just like when you were wrong about posting knives via Royal Mail.

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

just read what is there not what isnt

I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

Please clarify your point fully in relation to my quoting you above.

That sentence belongs in some kind of FBI code system for rain man to work on. I'm trying really hard to understand your reasoning here.

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

But .22 rf are not more likely ! its just you hear them when it happens because its a mangled lump of lead well under the speed of sound . 50 BMG will ricochet , 243 win will , 308 will etc etc but it would be incredibly rare for it to do so under the speed of sound and within ear shot of the firing point . Besides it would effectively be masked by the gunshot even moderated

So you're saying that the bullet material, structure etc plays no impact in richochet risk?

And are you also saying that the speed plays no impact either ? That sounds like it's in complete contradiction to your comments easier about the kinetic energy- which as we both know is largely a function of its velocity

If you're saying that speed does play a key role in richochet chance- and bullet material design etc doesnt- then presumably 22lr is *less* likely to richochet than all other bullets- given its 2.5-3x slower than all other CF calibres ?

Please clarify.

 

[Overlay]

Where’s that button

 

[Smellydog]

This guy tried telling me a 17 HMR bounces off rabbits heads or something like that and a 22 is good for 150yds or something like that

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

OP what CF do you have? If it's a 3006 I understand your question- but if you a foxing calibre and can get 100-200 yards away to keep the noise down then there's no real issue IMO.

Similarly- I would be willing to bet that inside 50 yards a well placed chest shot goose wouldn't move from a 22lr.

Shoot them just as they all land and there's lots of commotion and you can get a few before they realise what's happening.

The softie in me likes Geese. They mate for life- so try and shoot them in pairs.

How do you know which pair is which?

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

How do you know which pair is which?

There's always (often many) at least one goose (this is a female) giving another goose (this is the male mate) an absolute bollocking for no apparent reason. Drop these two super quick amd go home- but if you're clever you can do some real good to goose society here-

For the geese surrounding it which look ****ed off and want to peck her face in- these are younger often single males. Take them if you wish but they won't have procreated yet- at least not to a consistent partner- so this depends on your cull plan.

For the surrounding geese which look at the ground to avoid eye contact with the aggressive goose, keep their heads low- these are partnered male geese. They are broken- it's too late for most of them. A heart attack in the shed will get them sooner rather than later. But put them out of their misery if it fits your cull plan.

If you see a group of freaking smarmy entitled geese with chests puffed and head held high geese looking approvingly at the said bollocking- these are the wife's of other broken men. Drop them all. Too many ****ed off older females with little to contribute to life is a real burden to goose society. They will clog up goose resources in care homes and healthcare for decades.

Any others who are ignoring the situation and taking selfies are young females- remove if required within cull plan.

Simple

 

[kimh]

Anything hitting 17degrees will ricochet, as per Tiger Tank Design - a 6.5 x 52mm Carcano ricochets also in the Italian mountains, trust me - Experience and understanding is that the speed of a 22LR subsonic bullet at the normal shallow height of shooting e.g. a rabbit, can/could result in ground skimming if a miss occurs or a close shot is made (thus full penetration and exit occurs) the speed is too slow to penetrate the ground but fast enough to continue via a ricochet, possibly hitting a further object thus ricocheting again resulting, in either instance, an uncalculated place of shot - risk assessment = I wouldn't use a 22LR Goose shooting

 

[billy_boyle_2010]

Interesting referring to tank design! Excellent!

 

[Morkai]

Anything hitting 17degrees will ricochet, as per Tiger Tank Design - a 6.5 x 52mm Carcano ricochets also in the Italian mountains, trust me - Experience and understanding is that the speed of a 22LR subsonic bullet at the normal shallow height of shooting e.g. a rabbit, can/could result in ground skimming if a miss occurs or a close shot is made (thus full penetration and exit occurs) the speed is too slow to penetrate the ground but fast enough to continue via a ricochet, possibly hitting a further object thus ricocheting again resulting, in either instance, an uncalculated place of shot - risk assessment = I wouldn't use a 22LR Goose shooting

So you wouldnt use a 22lr for anything then, thats how it reads?

 

[Smellydog]

There was an aweful smash on the roads today near here, do you think I should stay in

 

[Confidis]

The definitive answer to this and most other SD "what center fire/knife /scope/trousers for gerbils? " type questions is ,
'it depends' .
However I'm not convinced gerbils need trousers.

 

[kimh]

So you wouldnt use a 22lr for anything then, thats how it reads?

Subsonic on the 'geese that have taken up residence on a golf course' 'the area is in close proximity to houses albeit shooting away from them and as you know golfers are mental no matter what time of day there’s a chance you will see one' as per the opp question = NO
Re: Your line 'So you wouldn't use a 22lr for anything then...' I teach with them on an indoor and outdoor range, 3 position target/LSR and LBP, if the shooter in the field is elevated, if the shooter is in open ground, or has a safe backstop (not a Tiger Tank ) that's all for a subsonic round, go faster than 1100fps with a SAK moderator and considerations would be different
I also think the opp has already got the answer? the clue is in his name
Good luck to all in their shooting career and please stay safe

 

[Pellet Pinger]

Subsonic on the 'geese that have taken up residence on a golf course' 'the area is in close proximity to houses albeit shooting away from them and as you know golfers are mental no matter what time of day there’s a chance you will see one' as per the opp question = NO

Just to be clear.
The comment regarding members was based upon them hearing gunshots from a C/F or shotgun, not safety concerns.

 

[kimh]

Just to be clear.
The comment regarding members was based upon them hearing gunshots from a C/F or shotgun, not safety concerns.

just shout 4

 

[adamevans45]

Can you not get close enough to use an air rifle maybe?