A 25yd range .22 paper target bull, with a 9 o clock hit on the bull ring would be a similar placed moving shot.(Hollow point Winchester)
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Canada Geese 22lr.
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Yep
works ok if you can get a front on chest shot without hitting the neck hornet knocks em over reasonably well
If you have ever had a .22 ricochet off water, shot placement has to be a major consideration. Don't ask me, how I know?
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billy_boyle_2010
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OP what CF do you have? If it's a 3006 I understand your question- but if you a foxing calibre and can get 100-200 yards away to keep the noise down then there's no real issue IMO.
Similarly- I would be willing to bet that inside 50 yards a well placed chest shot goose wouldn't move from a 22lr.
Shoot them just as they all land and there's lots of commotion and you can get a few before they realise what's happening.
The softie in me likes Geese. They mate for life- so try and shoot them in pairs.
Similarly- I would be willing to bet that inside 50 yards a well placed chest shot goose wouldn't move from a 22lr.
Shoot them just as they all land and there's lots of commotion and you can get a few before they realise what's happening.
The softie in me likes Geese. They mate for life- so try and shoot them in pairs.
kimh
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I once caught up with a lad with a 22LR, no licence. he was using it under section 11 (4) he said and all I will say is ricochet/ricochet/ricochet they were pinging all over the place, needless to say, I moved the showman on.
IMO ('In My Opinion') and as an instructor/coach in 22LR target rifle/LSR and LBP I would say if you think you are being careful using subsonic in the field think again, 'then think again' as it only takes one ping in the wrong direction and most of us will at one time or the other experienced that 'sound' and the fear - Geese are difficult to stalk and shoot, height of head from ground, moving, alert and getting close, your frenzy and urge to shoot more than to, netting is the most efficient way.
Sorry if that has opened a can of worms...
IMO ('In My Opinion') and as an instructor/coach in 22LR target rifle/LSR and LBP I would say if you think you are being careful using subsonic in the field think again, 'then think again' as it only takes one ping in the wrong direction and most of us will at one time or the other experienced that 'sound' and the fear - Geese are difficult to stalk and shoot, height of head from ground, moving, alert and getting close, your frenzy and urge to shoot more than to, netting is the most efficient way.
Sorry if that has opened a can of worms...
Maybe the geese around me are just harder to kill than most but over the years of culling the large numbers we have feeding on expensive crops of barley seed or vegetables grown for M & S, I have yet to kill one without moment with .22 / .17 HMR even with head shots. If shooting by water they need retrieving with dogs as they swim around pedalo style. We have had some success with shotguns loaded with BBB Remington Nitro steel but at least 50% end up on the water dead or wounded . The best tool for the job I found was the 22 250 loaded with 50grn V Max's, with a good safe backstop it leaves not alot to flap with a body shot. If you can single out the biggest ( oldest ) one the rest soon get the message and move on !!
billy_boyle_2010
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Very low chance of a ricochet with a chest shot inside 50 yards. Which seems the obvious if using a .22- provided you know their anatomy well enough IMO.
How do you mean "even with head shots". You would expect movement especially after head shots. Headless chickens etc etc
250 can't do much good for meat retention.
But I'm sure it works v well like all foxing calibres would.
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Meat retention is the last thing I worry about when the Geese we shoot, roost at night on the local landfill pools and the only ones I've ever cooked made my dogs bad !!
Smellydog
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This ain't no ordinary goose, it's an m&s goose
billy_boyle_2010
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While i respect you work experiences on ranges , The more energy - the more the risk . Bullets that carry most weight and the most velocity are always the most dangerous thats not going to be 22lr . The ricochet you hear is less dangerous than the one you do not hear.
The fact that the 22rf is the most widely owned gun on the planet and shoots the highest volume also needs consideration
You only hear subsonic ricochets very rare indeed you will hear a ricochet that is not in fact ( dont mean it dont happen though ! Sorry to butt in just such an important point
That's one thing I have always wondered "Where did all those ricochets go" in my younger and more care free days we shot 50 or so rabbits every Friday night on the farm where I worked . Over the years we moved off shotguns and air rifles to .22 rf then on to .17 HMR , not that we ever shot unsafe but ricochets were quite common with the sub sonic 22 rf and that's what stopped their use. In well over 1000 rounds I think I have only heard 3 ricochets with the .17 HMR but it put pay to the Rabbit numbers in the end and now we stalk them like Deer or limit night shooting to air rifles unless they cause crop damage . You can't believe how the numbers dropped over the years and now you are lucky to see 20 or so over the 800 acres !! and now we go out once every couple of months !! Lets hope Deer don't go the same way but that's another story .
Pellet Pinger
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Thanks for all the comments!
As my original post, the main criteria as well as being safe is being discreet, could do it with my C/F but the noise is the problem.
They aren’t too bothered about people with the golfers being around, i can certainly get within 30yds and shoot prone off a bipod that’s why I’m thinking a well placed shot with the 22lr will do the job.
At the minute they aren’t there but they will return soon, i‘ll sort a plan with ground staff regarding retrieval if required and safe shooting times.
billy_boyle_2010
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If you can get to 30-40 yards a chest shot 22lr will work great and be incredibly low risk of ricochet and quieter. Risk is far greater from a head shot IMO.
If you have a semi auto you may be able to shoot a couple before they clear off- but there's some law about only having a mag with 3 in it for goose
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Morkai
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Shooting these under the GL as vermin, not as geese under season dates.
billy_boyle_2010
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Perhaps you can answer a question that's extremely relevant to the topic of ricochet 22lr.
Let's assume 60 yards impact
hunting ammo
subs
A contact zone of
hard earth, bone, wood, water
what energy retention, as a percentage, is retained at the point of ricochet???
Answer as detailed as you like
billy_boyle_2010
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Ahhhh good point
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I’ve tried pretty well every combination, the two Ways I’ve found to work - get the wind and flight line right knock out the lead birds until they give up, and they will, the second using a 222 it’s not very noisy at all from a safe shot prospective gets the job done, if you rush it you’ll be sitting on your backside waiting for them to come back which could be a day or two
if you wound one with a shotgun, keep on it until it drops, don’t be tempted to get on another, the 222 flattens em to be honest anything less you can expect wounded birds, flappers in the water, because that’s where they’re head for the reed bed on the island the list goes on and on, they dive like submarines my only dog able to get them was my wire he just followed em under
if you wound one with a shotgun, keep on it until it drops, don’t be tempted to get on another, the 222 flattens em to be honest anything less you can expect wounded birds, flappers in the water, because that’s where they’re head for the reed bed on the island the list goes on and on, they dive like submarines my only dog able to get them was my wire he just followed em under
Morkai
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And with lead..
Dont we all love the technicalities, haha
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