palmer_mike
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CL55 license arrived in my email just now. So turn around just over a week for me
CL55 Night licence delays
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Nickb
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Might get the fallow numbers reducedLots keen on lamping by the seem of it. Will maybe leave “thestalkingdirectory” for something more apt like “theNVmob”
palmer_mike
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Agreed, something needs to happen as the population of fallow around here is increasing dramatically…….Might get the fallow numbers reduced
Essexsussex
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can I ask anyone who has been through this, when you have received your personal registration number what documents do you then need to upload to register the land? As i dont have my number just yet i can’t get past that question to find out.
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ES
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ES
Only actual upload is the boundary map but below is a list of the questions you are asked in that order.
- Name
- Email address
- Information on protected sites either on or near where you plan to implement the license. Different answers will give different follow up questions. There is a link to Magic Map which will show any SSSI etc around you.
- Give the site a name,
- Do you intend to shoot Red deer on this site.
- County,
- Are you culling reds here
- Species you intend to cull
- Sex of species.
- Number you intend to shoot.
- Upload of your boundary map.
- Why do you want to shoot at night.
- Have deer caused significant damage to property in the last 12 months.
- What alternative solutions have your tired or considered to resolve the problem.
- Confirm you have tried alternative solutions to shooting deer at night.
A lot of the questions are multiple choice and relatively simple.
Hope that helps and allows you to gather the required info ready.
Essexsussex
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Thats really helpful thanks GS
No worries. Should hopefully save any surprises when filling it out. It does have a save and continue function also so it doesn't have to be done in one hit.
Spear Chucker
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I love the idea of tfe NFU providing "proof of competency" for anything. It seems like the ultimate irony, on a number of fronts. Firstly the NFU as a body wouldn't know one end of a deer (or rifle) from another. Secondly, they are almost certainly forbidden from vouchsafing anything to do with an NFU member that is beyond the immediate control of the Central NFU advisers after being checked by their lawyers. Thirdly, if this "proof" was provided by an NFU Group Secretary, the NFU centrally will almost certainly disavow the written "proof" as it will have been given in contravention of their internal rules. Fourthly, unless the NFU have started running training courses for night stalking, how was proof of competency determined? No chance that that such a "morally windy"organisation would rubber stamp a deer stalker's application, they won't do it for their farming members' subsidy applications.
You need to get into that, and quickly, because if he is stalking in your name, or that of your principals, and using "evidence" that is not solid, you are potentially on the hook too-if it turns our to be "unauthorised". If it was an NFU Mutual agent, the ice you're on is even thinner. He/she is filling out forms that are legal documents and statements made (or evidence provided in support of his/her statements) carry the same weight and penalties as a firearms certificate do. Serious stuff.
Interesting. I have had very zero dealings with the NFU in my time. I have no doubt of the capabilities of my managers, otherwise they wouldn't be culling for me. As far as I am aware the NFU evidence is showing that the individual carried out government approved training. In this case it was night time shooting for badgers.
Curious to understand that if what you are saying is indeed correct then why are they NFU listed as an approved method for people to apply for the CL55? Genuinely interested. Have they upset you?
Spear Chucker
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AH! OK. So that is probably different. It makes perfect sense that he could have had NFU evidence in respect of badger culls - they were involved in its administration. I took it on face value in respect of deer and CL55 licenses.
No, the NFU have not upset me -any more than they have the vast majority of farmers recently with their hopeless cowardice and incompetence in respect of IHT (and just about anything else...Red Tractor being a classic example).
I personally detest all trade associations of their sort as I feel they are no better than BASC/ CA/ GCWT who -in my opinion- are not worth the sub their members pay. That aside (because it is not relevant), it concerned me that you may be represented by someone who had potentially made an application using evidence that might have been disavowed by the NFU and possibly land an applicant / you / your principals in the soup if it had been checked. That is clearly not the case here and I apologize if I got your heart rate going unnecessarily. I had failed to consider their involvement in the badger cull. Mea Culpa.
No worries mate.
That is indeed the case.
They (NFU) have of course all the documented evidence of an individual`s Contractor number, parcel numbers operated on and cull tag numbers.
NE questioned one of my notification sites, due to the proximity of one of their own national nature reserves, until I confirmed that I operated on the site under the badger cull license and quoted the parcel number. I assume they checked all of that with the NFU and that I operated successfully and safely.
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