Conservation and land management - finally someone in office who appears to understand.
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He is right nothing that keepers and land managers have not been doing for years the difference is that we were reactive
he is calling for land managers to be proactive.
By that I mean he wants us to cull these animals and he includes deer in this ,not to protect trees but so that they can plant more trees and that is the real difference.
Here in Scotland this approach is already being implemented fencing is expensive so they want to plant trees without
fencing .
Having been involved in this somewhat I know that it is an ongoing problem as an unfenced forest is attractive to all
these animals so these species need to be drastically reduced not just in the actual forests but country wide for this
plan to succeed.
There has been talk of as little as one deer per square kilometre being the optimum amount .
Not good for stalking nor wildlife.
Protect existing forests by all means and fence new forests cull everything inside those fences as and when required
to protect those trees.
Not a widespread cull of our wildlife to facilitate planting of trees without fencing and hence the associated ex pense as that is what the forestry companies would like.
he is calling for land managers to be proactive.
By that I mean he wants us to cull these animals and he includes deer in this ,not to protect trees but so that they can plant more trees and that is the real difference.
Here in Scotland this approach is already being implemented fencing is expensive so they want to plant trees without
fencing .
Having been involved in this somewhat I know that it is an ongoing problem as an unfenced forest is attractive to all
these animals so these species need to be drastically reduced not just in the actual forests but country wide for this
plan to succeed.
There has been talk of as little as one deer per square kilometre being the optimum amount .
Not good for stalking nor wildlife.
Protect existing forests by all means and fence new forests cull everything inside those fences as and when required
to protect those trees.
Not a widespread cull of our wildlife to facilitate planting of trees without fencing and hence the associated ex pense as that is what the forestry companies would like.
All ready are.
Freeforester
Well-Known Member
Let him get on with his gun, seems there is one rule for single issue interests, but another those advocating for the general benefit of biodiversity, jobs in rural areas, etc.
Has he tried all the deterrent methods and other means of prevention, like SNH insist for pest species of 'preferred status'? What about vaccination, as advocated by the Brian May brockhuggers, etc? Has he exhausted all the alternatives, and sought permission from Cwis? How will the townies react to poor squirrel nutkin's cute fluffy American pal being vilified? Or is he just looking to secure a supply of an abundant alternative soft and fluffy ar$e wipe in case the loo paper hoarding mania persists?
A question of balance should be on his reading list
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Has he tried all the deterrent methods and other means of prevention, like SNH insist for pest species of 'preferred status'? What about vaccination, as advocated by the Brian May brockhuggers, etc? Has he exhausted all the alternatives, and sought permission from Cwis? How will the townies react to poor squirrel nutkin's cute fluffy American pal being vilified? Or is he just looking to secure a supply of an abundant alternative soft and fluffy ar$e wipe in case the loo paper hoarding mania persists?
A question of balance should be on his reading list
:
countrryboy
Well-Known Member
Does all new grant funded forests/tree planting schemes and many restock sites have to be both deer and rabbit fenced??
I know a few fencers being flung thousands off m's of deer fencing, more than ever before. N fact many can't cope.
Now I can understand it if u have high deer densities or roaming species, but just seems completely over the top instead with not roe and no rabbits.
Really should be on a case by case basis and area dependant
A mate is just completing 30k meters all deer fenced and rabbit netted in 1 off the best designed and well stalked forests u'll find and not a rabbit in sight and never has been a rabbity area.
A complete waste of money esp as talking about more grants to take the deer fence down ( as 2 stock nets rather than 1 6ft deer net)
I know a few fencers being flung thousands off m's of deer fencing, more than ever before. N fact many can't cope.
Now I can understand it if u have high deer densities or roaming species, but just seems completely over the top instead with not roe and no rabbits.
Really should be on a case by case basis and area dependant
A mate is just completing 30k meters all deer fenced and rabbit netted in 1 off the best designed and well stalked forests u'll find and not a rabbit in sight and never has been a rabbity area.
A complete waste of money esp as talking about more grants to take the deer fence down ( as 2 stock nets rather than 1 6ft deer net)
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