Copper - give me a brand then

[wildfowler.250]

Right folks, having debated it in the other post, this can be as short and sweet as you like.

.270 flavour, what bullet do I pick?


Yew tree? (Is it the TLR’s folk recommend?).


Or Barnes? TTSX?



As a side note, has anyone ever experienced this. I shot the factory sako powerblade and they clover leafed at 100 yards. I thought I was on the money. These seemed to wildly open up at 200 yards. To the point where I couldn’t use them,(4” groups).
Now the easy answer is I can’t shoot for anything but I’ve never had this issue with another bullet. And I can still not fathom why there was such a marked change over only 100 yards - off a bipod as well!


Anyway I’m going to load up something for estate days depending on which brand folk on here recommend! But accubonds will still be my mainstay. Cheers!

 

[gaza916]

If you’re reloading don’t discount Vertus Precision. This is a 5 shot group at 100m of their Osprey bullet measuring 0.515 inches.

 

[wildfowler.250]

If you’re reloading don’t discount Vertus Precision. This is a 5 shot group at 100m of their Osprey bullet measuring 0.515 inches.

Thanks, will have a look. Never heard of them!




Also I’m assuming viht N160 will still work for the copper?

 

[takbok]

110gr Barnes TTSX work very well out to decent ranges and are very accurate for quite a few people that I know on Muntjac, Roe, Fallow, Sika & Reds. I reload a lot of them and never had any issues. Muzzle velocity 3100-3400 fps depending on charge and barrel length.

Vihtavuori N160 (Start at around 58gr)
110gr TTSX seated to 3.250" COAL
LR primer of your choice.

 

[nun_hunter]

As with any bullet recommendation, what are you shooting? Where are you shooting it? How far away are you shooting it? What level of meat damage is acceptable?

There will be some bullets that compromise across all of these or some that are more specific, so matching the bullet to your needs will give you the most satisfactory results.

 

[Heym SR20]

I would have a look at the Fox bullets. They have a reputation for being easy to load for and producing good accuracy. @Edinburgh Rifles sells them and publishes the load data used in the factory ammunition so as to save lots of time and money developing a load.

Full details about the bullets, stockists and load data is here

Fox Non Lead Bullets – Edinburgh Rifles

Ballistic data and more load data here

https://www.foxbullets.eu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Fox-Ammunition_ballistic-data_2019-ENG-1.pdf

 

[calumb]

I can recommend Fox

 

[mike308]

Another one for Fox bullets. I use them in a .308 150 grain, n540 powder ,I've shot reds out to 300 yards with no problem. My son in law uses them in a .270, no complaints

 

[Will the chippy]

Right folks, having debated it in the other post, this can be as short and sweet as you like.

.270 flavour, what bullet do I pick?


Yew tree? (Is it the TLR’s folk recommend?).


Or Barnes? TTSX?



As a side note, has anyone ever experienced this. I shot the factory sako powerblade and they clover leafed at 100 yards. I thought I was on the money. These seemed to wildly open up at 200 yards. To the point where I couldn’t use them,(4” groups).
Now the easy answer is I can’t shoot for anything but I’ve never had this issue with another bullet. And I can still not fathom why there was such a marked change over only 100 yards - off a bipod as well!


Anyway I’m going to load up something for estate days depending on which brand folk on here recommend! But accubonds will still be my mainstay. Cheers!

A friend and RFD and very experienced shot had this issue. Got loaded with some copper bullets. Absolutely bob on a 100mtrs. He went to shoot a stag at 250mts. The guide said he'd missed, no chance, he went on to miss with 2 more shots. Made a fool of him.
Back on the range it tuns out the bullet was too long for the twist rate. It went unstable at about 150yrds.
He ended up rebarreling his rifle in a tighter twist. I'd try a different bullet shape or lighter bullet first.

 

[Biathlonjimmy]

I have used a few.

Peregrine VLR4 in 6.5mm works well and I have shot 100s of roe, fallow and a couple of red with them.

Yew Tree is by far my favourite though. I have shot predominantly red and fallow with the 147gr TLR in 300wsm. It enables extremely tight groups, can be driven fast (3385fps) and holds up well at close range whilst performing very well at further distances.

I am moving to the Yew Tree standard in 6.5mm. I would go for the TLR but my 260rem is only 1 in 9 twist. Also nearly all of my shots are taken sub 300yds with this rifle so there's no real advantage.

 

[270TOMMY]

got my first 270w in the late 60s still the best for me i use 130sierra g\king on deer and 130 ppu at the range recomend u put a mod on it if you not heavily built

 

[Acm]

Have tried most of them, can’t get past the hornady cx in 6.5 & 6mm and the Barnes LRX in .30 cal.
I like the accuracy of the yew tree and virtus but can’t get on board with the shards of copper going always, sometimes quite far from the shot site. I’ve found some shards in the back straps in a fallow from a shoulder shot deer. In all fairness though, I’ve only shot 10-15 animals with them, vs hundreds with the cx

 

[Sakoodin1]

Right folks, having debated it in the other post, this can be as short and sweet as you like.

.270 flavour, what bullet do I pick?


Yew tree? (Is it the TLR’s folk recommend?).


Or Barnes? TTSX?



As a side note, has anyone ever experienced this. I shot the factory sako powerblade and they clover leafed at 100 yards. I thought I was on the money. These seemed to wildly open up at 200 yards. To the point where I couldn’t use them,(4” groups).
Now the easy answer is I can’t shoot for anything but I’ve never had this issue with another bullet. And I can still not fathom why there was such a marked change over only 100 yards - off a bipod as well!


Anyway I’m going to load up something for estate days depending on which brand folk on here recommend! But accubonds will still be my mainstay. Cheers!

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Right folks, having debated it in the other post, this can be as short and sweet as you like.

.270 flavour, what bullet do I pick?


Yew tree? (Is it the TLR’s folk recommend?).


Or Barnes? TTSX?



As a side note, has anyone ever experienced this. I shot the factory sako powerblade and they clover leafed at 100 yards. I thought I was on the money. These seemed to wildly open up at 200 yards. To the point where I couldn’t use them,(4” groups).
Now the easy answer is I can’t shoot for anything but I’ve never had this issue with another bullet. And I can still not fathom why there was such a marked change over only 100 yards - off a bipod as well!


Anyway I’m going to load up something for estate days depending on which brand folk on here recommend! But accubonds will still be my mainstay. Cheers!

home loads? 129 grn Barnes lrx is a fantastic .270 bullet,I’ve shot hundreds of deer with them without fault (going out at 2950fps)

 

[RS99]

I have been using the 129gn LRX bullets for 5 years now, I've killed lots of things with them and they're all still dead.
Seated over N560 they're doing about 3200fps, zero 2" high at 100yards and you don't have to think out to 300 yards.
I can push them to 1000 yards on gongs when I'm feeling like a rich man.

 

[Dave_45]

Fragmenting copper bullets , I’m not sold on them , im not going to run them down but nor will I praise them at all.

I like hasler ariete copper hunting bullets , expand well at range and don’t blow a carcass to bits up close either.

Expensive things though

 

[NBCCS]

Barnes 129gr lrx with n560 for the 270. 3160fps work extremely well at all ranges

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

Fragmenting copper bullets , I’m not sold on them , im not going to run them down but nor will I praise them at all.

I would say it’s a very valid opinion and one you see on the forum with regularity. It’s a very personal decision as to what good bullet performance means to you at the end of the day.

I would draw the parallel of SSTs/ELD-Ms/A-Maxs in lead terms. These shed significant proportions of their weight in a variety of sized fragment, causing devastating damage. Some people love these bullets for deer, other hate them, they’re very marmite so to speak.

Similar story with Bonded bullets or High weight retention Monolithics. To some people a mushroom causing a very straight and deep wound cavity with little to no fragmentation is the ideal; minimising damage to the carcass while providing what they deem sufficient terminal damage.

At the end of the day it’s up to each of us to use what works for our own uses - situations vary and the bullet required for 0-50m woodland roe is often a very different one to what may be optimal for culling hill reds at 300-500m.

My personal view is I will use both, but under different circumstances and in different rifles.
Horses for courses so to speak.

I would say it’s a very positive position to be in where we have enough options on the market so we can now discuss what designs/constructions we prefer instead of just copper vs. Lead.


Ben

 

[Ronin]

Hasler Ariete

Yew Tree

 

[Shootgun]

120 grains Sako Blade... Awesome!

 

[2Ll’s]

Right folks, having debated it in the other post, this can be as short and sweet as you like.

.270 flavour, what bullet do I pick?


Yew tree? (Is it the TLR’s folk recommend?).


Or Barnes? TTSX?



As a side note, has anyone ever experienced this. I shot the factory sako powerblade and they clover leafed at 100 yards. I thought I was on the money. These seemed to wildly open up at 200 yards. To the point where I couldn’t use them,(4” groups).
Now the easy answer is I can’t shoot for anything but I’ve never had this issue with another bullet. And I can still not fathom why there was such a marked change over only 100 yards - off a bipod as well!


Anyway I’m going to load up something for estate days depending on which brand folk on here recommend! But accubonds will still be my mainstay. Cheers!

Nosler E tips, 130 grain OAL 3.300”, 53 grains of N160, 3000 fps ish