Custom Ear Plugs

victormeldrew

Well-Known Member
Hi Guys,

I recently contacted AudioGuard Solutions (Cramlington, Northumberland) re custom earplugs & found them to be extremely helpful.
Unfortunately, due to where I live, the logistics involved in having moulds taken made the exercise uneconomic, so I did not proceed any further.

I appreciate that most people use moderators, but should anyone be looking for plugs, it may be worth trying the above company - http://www.audioguardsolutions.co.uk

victor
 
I got a set made up by specsavers, they cost around £100 if I remember rightly and are very good (albeit passive and not electronic) but my budget wouldn’t quite stretch that far.
 
Me and my son had ours made at the shooting show 2 years ago. They took the moulds at the show and were delivered within 2 weeks. They are very good. Cannot recal at present the name of the company, I think based in Shropshire. Their main market is people heavy industry and alike.

D
 
I'm not doubting AudioGuard Solutions helpfulness but personally I don't like dealing with companies who don't show their trading address on websites. Something they may wish to look into.
 
Custom Fit Guards are excellent. A friendly bunch with a great product, their passive 'Duo' system is much better than average.
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
I've had a look at Custom Fit Guards website & prices seem to be pretty well on a par (slightly cheaper for the passive/block type).
As mentioned in the o.p., logistics are the issue for me - I'll have to wait until I visit civilisation again (hope to make one of the Game Fairs next year but may manage to get things sorted before then).

TreeWorks, I understand where you're coming from - lack of an address does make one wonder.

victor
 
I used a set of custom silicone digitals for about 1000 unmoderated shots. Comfy and reasonable attenuation.. Unfortunately I became alergic to the silicone and had to have them redone in hard plastic. At that point they became uncomfortable and much worse attenuation.
I now stalk moderated with a yelloelw foam plug in my left ear and a set of electronic muffs I put on if I can. Works better for me - I find this better.
 
Forum member Alantoo recently got some Peltor/3M electronic plugs and his comments and reviews prompted me to give them a try as well. One big advantage with them is that they use foam "ear tips" and so require no custom fitting plus they will offer much higher attenuation - foam expands to fill the ear canal whereas the custom plugs don't do that and so there always needs to be a bit of slack with the fit otherwise they simply couldn't go in or out.

Once you reach reasonable levels of attenuation then I'm of the view that comfort is more important than actual attenuation (hence why custom fit plugs can still be a very good idea for many people) as to get any benefit you need to be wearing them and with the 3M plugs you can chop and change the various types of ear tip until you get something that you find is ideal for you, then CENS MINO ear tips will fit them for example plus 3M do a range of foam and also flange ear tips for them. I wear in ear monitor type things a lot so I knew the supplied flange tips would not work for me and also had planned on needing to do some experimenting to get a foam tip fit that suited, for most people what comes in the box will be OK but it is worth bearing in mind that doing some testing can improve fit and comfort a lot. This is the 3M ones, you might do a better deal elsewhere:

3M PELTOR Level Dependent Earplug Kit, LEP-100-EU: Amazon.co.uk: Business, Industry Science

The 3M plugs have a "unique" feature in that you don't have to fiddle with batteries as they have a non-removable internal rechargable battery and the storage box for them contains a little compartment for some standard AA batteries which recharge the plugs when they are in the box. I was in two minds about this as changing batteries is a quick fix whereas a recharge takes time, however 3M claim a very decent runtime (maybe 16 hours??) and the recharging in the storage case is very handy - I keep the case in the car and just pop then plugs in for a charge every time I'm in the car moving location or coming home from clays or whatever. Combining this with the very long run time I've never had a problem and even after a few hours at crows a recharge only seems to take a short time.

If it is passive ear protection you are looking for then, once more, my view is that foam plugs win every time as they are inexpensive and offer very high attenuation and low cost. Again fit and comfort are key and it is very unlikely indeed that the first ones you get or the ones supplied at your local clay ground are going to be a good fit. If you are going the passive foam route then order one of the trial packs from these people and give them all a good trial to get a feel what works for you, you'll be surprised at the differences in comfort and fit and you will almost certainly find something that you feel is good for you:

Ear Plug Assortment Packs - Ear Plugs
 
Forum member Alantoo recently got some Peltor/3M electronic plugs and his comments and reviews prompted me to give them a try as well. One big advantage with them is that they use foam "ear tips" and so require no custom fitting plus they will offer much higher attenuation - foam expands to fill the ear canal whereas the custom plugs don't do that and so there always needs to be a bit of slack with the fit otherwise they simply couldn't go in or out.

Once you reach reasonable levels of attenuation then I'm of the view that comfort is more important than actual attenuation (hence why custom fit plugs can still be a very good idea for many people) as to get any benefit you need to be wearing them and with the 3M plugs you can chop and change the various types of ear tip until you get something that you find is ideal for you, then CENS MINO ear tips will fit them for example plus 3M do a range of foam and also flange ear tips for them. I wear in ear monitor type things a lot so I knew the supplied flange tips would not work for me and also had planned on needing to do some experimenting to get a foam tip fit that suited, for most people what comes in the box will be OK but it is worth bearing in mind that doing some testing can improve fit and comfort a lot. This is the 3M ones, you might do a better deal elsewhere:

3M PELTOR Level Dependent Earplug Kit, LEP-100-EU: Amazon.co.uk: Business, Industry Science

The 3M plugs have a "unique" feature in that you don't have to fiddle with batteries as they have a non-removable internal rechargable battery and the storage box for them contains a little compartment for some standard AA batteries which recharge the plugs when they are in the box. I was in two minds about this as changing batteries is a quick fix whereas a recharge takes time, however 3M claim a very decent runtime (maybe 16 hours??) and the recharging in the storage case is very handy - I keep the case in the car and just pop then plugs in for a charge every time I'm in the car moving location or coming home from clays or whatever. Combining this with the very long run time I've never had a problem and even after a few hours at crows a recharge only seems to take a short time.

If it is passive ear protection you are looking for then, once more, my view is that foam plugs win every time as they are inexpensive and offer very high attenuation and low cost. Again fit and comfort are key and it is very unlikely indeed that the first ones you get or the ones supplied at your local clay ground are going to be a good fit. If you are going the passive foam route then order one of the trial packs from these people and give them all a good trial to get a feel what works for you, you'll be surprised at the differences in comfort and fit and you will almost certainly find something that you feel is good for you:

Ear Plug Assortment Packs - Ear Plugs

What a prescient post!

I own a set of the LEP 100 Peltor's and have been trawling the web to determine if compatible custom molded ear plugs are available but with no real clarity.

Are you able to suggest something that would provide a better ear canal seal than the plugs that come with the kit by way of compromise please?

Many thanks
 
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Have you tried the skull screw foam plugs that ship with (or at least shipped with mine) the LEP 100s? If so I assume these didn't work for you? To be honest I don't find them a great fit either. The foam plugs for the CENS MINOs will also fit the LEP 100s and you can buy them from CENS:

CENS Digital

Peltor/3M also do other foam ear tips for the LEP 100s, Alantoo found a source for them and I haven't chased that up as yet but have tried them and find them a good fit for myself. They are available in the UK but being a commercial/industrial product it needs a bit more chasing up to find a supplier and Alan was successful, he got them from a company called Earshot Communications, this is what they look like:

All 3M Products| 3M United States

These people also make replacement ear tips, though they are pricey, but I'm sure some of them will fit the LEP 100s but haven't tried them myself, I have a sneaking suspicion CENS might source their ear tips from here:

Complyâ„¢ Foam Tips - Replacement Earphone Tips

The tips for my Etymotic ER4 inear monitors also fit the LEP 100s but as they aren't designed for noise isolation I've no idea what the attenuation might be so they seem less than optimal.

So, there are lots of options for a foam solution it is just that with them being an industrial product it is a little more involved than simply going on Amazon :-)
 
Thanks for the above. I'll give the skull screws another go now I realise no insertion tools are required!

I found these but not in large:
Comply P-Series Maximum Noise Isolation Foam Earphone: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

The 3M look good but at c$75 a hit they would need to be.

All the best


I took a punt and ordered a pack of 25 pairs of the "[FONT=&quot]3M Peltor Triple-C Communicaiton Eartips CCC-GRM-25"[/FONT] foam tips from Earshot Communications...£60.30 including VAT and Post...and sent some over to Philip to try...happy to send a pair for you to try...let me have a postal address.

I found them the best fit so far...the skull screws were just a bit too big for me, the medium flanged ones were okay but these others were the most comfortable for all day use and were somewhere between the other two for attenuation.

I have been using a tip found on the Siemens site, to put a smear of Aloe Vera gel on the tips when inserting...it did make the otherwise impossible skull screws possible.

Alan
 
Thanks for the above. I'll give the skull screws another go now I realise no insertion tools are required!

If they fit you the skull screws are a good solution, as Alan says a bit of lubrication helps. I find them a tad too large for me and even though they are soft over a few hours they sort of generate pressure that becomes uncomfortable.

As Alan has said he sent me on some of the 3M eartips and they seem, for me, to be about the best fit. I know they are expensive at £60 for 25 of them but you get more than one use out of each pair so 25 pairs might do you 150 outings or more. Only you can say if that is good value. I've used the CENS MINO ear tips as well and find them comfortable and suitable to be reused many times so at £2.50 each pair they are also worth trying as they are available in a wide range of sizes. I ordered a full set of sizes and then decided on which ones fit me so I have at least two options with the 3M eartips and the CENS ones.
 
If they fit you the skull screws are a good solution, as Alan says a bit of lubrication helps. I find them a tad too large for me and even though they are soft over a few hours they sort of generate pressure that becomes uncomfortable.

As Alan has said he sent me on some of the 3M eartips and they seem, for me, to be about the best fit. I know they are expensive at £60 for 25 of them but you get more than one use out of each pair so 25 pairs might do you 150 outings or more. Only you can say if that is good value. I've used the CENS MINO ear tips as well and find them comfortable and suitable to be reused many times so at £2.50 each pair they are also worth trying as they are available in a wide range of sizes. I ordered a full set of sizes and then decided on which ones fit me so I have at least two options with the 3M eartips and the CENS ones.

Thought they were £60 per pair!

K
 
I found you can take them off and wash them successfully so have been alternating between a couple of pairs of 3M CCCs since early July. Rough totting up from memory they have survived quite a few insertions, well over two dozen and probably nearer three. Around 5x2.5-3 hour evening sessions at the range, a couple of 10-4 BDS range days, a couple of all-days on the tele-handler, half a day chainsawing fire wood, 3x3 hours strimming and an hour or so on the 3 days beating this month...on a few drives I invariably seem to end up on the other side of the hedge from the gun line...oh and not forgetting a few 2 hour sessions squeaking in a high seat and two HAD call outs!

I don't know how long the electronics will last...I have had mine since December 2017...but I guess a pack of 25 pairs of tips would likely outlast them at this rate.

The 3M CCC don't seem quite so well finished or robust in appearance as the Cens ones, but who cares if they are the most comfortable for your particular ears!

Alan
 
Thanks Alan for you kind and generous offer. Much appreciated.

I wasn't joking re the Skull Screws insertion tool:
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All the best!

Richard
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