Dedicated PRS rifle ?

[MarinePMI]

Hi.
Thanks for sharing. Like the look of the CTR. So I’d be interested to know why he thought tikka rather than an offering from bergara like an HMR with its 700 footprint?
Ps does Josh sell Tikkas’?
Thanks
SCB

Tikkas are quickly overtaking Rem 700's in popularity, so there's just about as much support for Tikka T-3 footprint chassis as there are for 700 footprint.

And Tikkas have a habit of shooting very well right out of the box. The 6.5 barrels can be a little slow, but they tend to shoot bugholes. It's just a personal preference sort of thing. I do think that Tikkas tend to have more of a silky bolt feel, than Bergaras and others, and some just prefer the 60* bolt throw of a Tikka, over the 90* bolt throw of all the two lugged bolt offerings...

 

[jcalleja91]

Hi. So what requirements do Bisley have to shoot the comps ie being a member of NRA, SCC etc They have never seemed to advertise PRS on their website, in the events section, news, nothing - even the Hornady hustle if February this year. It’s like it’s Voldemort.
Be good to know
Thanks
SCB

Full entry details are on the relevant booking pages.

NRA. Competitions

online.nra.org.uk

Hornady Hustle wouldn't have been advertised as it was run by C2.. nothing to do with the NRA.

 

[MarinePMI]

Full entry details are on the relevant booking pages.

NRA. Competitions

online.nra.org.uk

Hornady Hustle wouldn't have been advertised as it was run by C2.. nothing to do with the NRA.

Hmmm....10 stages in a single day match. That's going to be a long day. Especially if they are 10-12 rd stages. I'd imagine they'd also have to have some pretty short par times, or small squads to make that work. It is interesting that the first match is already sold out. It's also interesting that the "Limited" class only allows .308, and doesn't also include .223.

I'd imagine things may change over time, but some of the requirements (IMHO) need to flex a little.

Still, I'm glad (and happy) to see Bisley finally embracing the PRS style matches.

 

[finnbear270]

After having some private conversations as to real PRS comps … I will be looking to concentrate on simply Extreme long range shoots rather than comping, ( @67 years with hip scores below Labradors & knees following on behind)

 

[jcalleja91]

Hmmm....10 stages in a single day match. That's going to be a long day. Especially if they are 10-12 rd stages. I'd imagine they'd also have to have some pretty short par times, or small squads to make that work. It is interesting that the first match is already sold out. It's also interesting that the "Limited" class only allows .308, and doesn't also include .223.

I'd imagine things may change over time, but some of the requirements (IMHO) need to flex a little.

Still, I'm glad (and happy) to see Bisley finally embracing the PRS style matches.

Yeha that's the IPRFs rules that have removed .223 from Limited. Nothing to so with Bisley.

I don't know about the squad size but yes I suspect it might be tight on time with 10 stages. But if everyone gets stuck in with spotting/brass etc and is ready when it's their turn should be more than doable.

 

[finnbear270]

I am further on now with capabilities if ever getting an “OH F”””, Iv’e been shot & I need to get up & need to run Deer”

 

[Ronin]

After having some private conversations as to real PRS comps … I will be looking to concentrate on simply Extreme long range shoots rather than comping, ( @67 years with hip scores below Labradors & knees following on behind)

Wise choice - the extreme challenge and MOA are very testing events in their own right

Smaller margin of error - less shots to “get the wind right” and walk onto target

Very satisfying events to participate in whatever you level of ability or skill set

 

[MarinePMI]

Yeha that's the IPRFs rules that have removed .223 from Limited. Nothing to so with Bisley.

I don't know about the squad size but yes I suspect it might be tight on time with 10 stages. But if everyone gets stuck in with spotting/brass etc and is ready when it's their turn should be more than doable.

Which reminds me, they didn't say whether it was a "lost brass" match or not. Allowing people to police up brass is a major time consumer, when trying to hustle a lot of people through a CoF. (there's always "that guy" that spends 5 extra minutes finding his last piece of Lapua 6 Dasher brass!)

To those going, you might want to be prepared for that, by marking your brass, so after the match, you can go back and retrieve "your brass". A sharpie marker will do in a pinch, or just make a case marker jig from some delrin that holds the case, and a marker is inserted through a hole in the side, and case is spun to leave a colored mark on the side of the case. Some have two holes to make a double banded color mark on their cases.

Typically a lost brass match, the RO's pick up all the brass at the end of the day, and each pour their buckets onto a table, for shooters to sort through to retrieve their brass. ...And you never get all of it back. Ever. LOL.

 

[finnbear270]

Seen thousands of go in the skip at a police range. Along with thousands of pounds of out of date specialised entry equipment.

 

[jcalleja91]

Which reminds me, they didn't say whether it was a "lost brass" match or not. Allowing people to police up brass is a major time consumer, when trying to hustle a lot of people through a CoF.

To those going, you might want to be prepared for that, by marking your brass, so after the match, you can go back and retrieve "your brass". A sharpie marker will do in a pinch, or just make a case marker jig from some delrin that holds the case, and a marker is inserted through a hole in the side, and case is spun to leave a colored mark on the side of the case. Some have two holes to make a double banded color mark on their cases.

Typically a lost brass match, the RO's pick up all the brass at the end of the day, and each pour their buckets onto a table, for shooters to sort through to retrieve their brass. ...And you never get all of it back. Ever. LOL.

I'd imagine there will be pick up of brass after each shooter. So long as the squads run efficiently I don't see why they would change this.

 

[MarinePMI]

Seen thousands of go in the skip at a police range.

That's why so many competitors use "crappy" Hornady brass for matches. No biggie if it gets lost....

 

[scotch_egg]

I can recommend Frank Galli’s book for any entry into long range shooting.

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[SCB]

Full entry details are on the relevant booking pages.

NRA. Competitions

online.nra.org.uk

Hornady Hustle wouldn't have been advertised as it was run by C2.. nothing to do with the NRA.

Ok thank you

 

[TDR]

Hi.
Thanks for sharing. Like the look of the CTR. So I’d be interested to know why he thought tikka rather than an offering from bergara like an HMR with its 700 footprint?
Ps does Josh sell Tikkas’?
Thanks
SCB

I chose a Tikka as I also have a Tac A1 in .223 as a training rifle. Pretty sure Josh can get hold of anything you'd like. He did mention a Bergara barreled action, but I got an excellent price on a CTR and it's nice using the same action across my 6.5CM and .223

 

[finnbear270]

Most suitable10 round metal magazine, Oryx to T3 s/a? AICS? Or?

 

[MarinePMI]

Most suitable10 round metal magazine, Oryx to T3 s/a? AICS? Or?

Not quite sure I understand the parameters of your question, but...

CTR's use a magazine similar to the Sako TRG (TRG mag will fit a CTR, but not the other way around). Some like them, some don't.

AICS is pretty much the standard in most chassis that are cut for a T-3 footprint. A quick point here; if using AICS mags, Tikkas usually require metal AICS mags. This is because the height of presentation of the round needs to be very high for the bolt to strip the round off the mag. With plastic AICS mags, the feed lips are thicker, pushing the round deeper into the magazine, and so, the bolt will often just slide over the top of the round, and fail to pick it up on the bolt face to push it into the chamber (and you can only raise the magazine up, by grinding the mag latch down, until it butts up against the bolt, so you're kind of stuck).

Were it I, I'd just go AICS pattern metal mags. They are abundant and made by several companies. Tikka CTR mags are only made by Beretta, and the bulk of them (IIRC) are made in Canada and then imported into the UK.

 

[finnbear270]

Ta for that, So steel AICS it is,

 

[TDR]

I use MDT AICS mags in my T3x that lives in an XLR Envy Pro chassis. They're available in 10 and 12 round, and I have one of each.

 

[ejg]

Magpul Aics mags are troublesome in Tikkas for the reasons Marine mentioned however MDT plastic are ok or feed well in T3's. Just for PRS metal seems better. I just changed my last CTR from CTR/TRG mag to aics. Just more choice. The new plastic 5 shot MDT mag is lovely for hunting. 3 shot flush MDT another option as well as Hawkins precision hunter mags or Snowy Mountain mags. Of course all the usual for 5/10 shot metal mags.
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[User00040]

Not quite sure I understand the parameters of your question, but...

CTR's use a magazine similar to the Sako TRG (TRG mag will fit a CTR, but not the other way around). Some like them, some don't.

AICS is pretty much the standard in most chassis that are cut for a T-3 footprint. A quick point here; if using AICS mags, Tikkas usually require metal AICS mags. This is because the height of presentation of the round needs to be very high for the bolt to strip the round off the mag. With plastic AICS mags, the feed lips are thicker, pushing the round deeper into the magazine, and so, the bolt will often just slide over the top of the round, and fail to pick it up on the bolt face to push it into the chamber (and you can only raise the magazine up, by grinding the mag latch down, until it butts up against the bolt, so you're kind of stuck).

Were it I, I'd just go AICS pattern metal mags. They are abundant and made by several companies. Tikka CTR mags are only made by Beretta, and the bulk of them (IIRC) are made in Canada and then imported into the UK.

FYI the MDT 8 (actually 10) round poly AICS mags will work just fine on a CTR bottom metal, just need a good slap in the first few times to get acquainted