No, just bog standard for the minute, will be sourcing a die setup for long stuff.
Dedicated PRS rifle ?
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Micrometer die & VLD stem on the way from Spud.
Rounds / loads shot this morning with the seating collet ring impress on the bullets:
Powder tried, was made by Winchester, Staball HD, the HD red label is the important bit (It's for PRC loads). Will work around 58.0 grains & see what can be improved ... (Maybe shoot some without moderator haze?)
Powder tried, was made by Winchester, Staball HD, the HD red label is the important bit (It's for PRC loads). Will work around 58.0 grains & see what can be improved ... (Maybe shoot some without moderator haze?)
Forgot to add, patching out black round spots are 25mm.
Just an FYI, the annular ring created by the seating stem is not necessarily a bad thing. While it will degrade (slightly) the BC, it's overall effect is that it tends to create a more consistent BC. This is because if it's severe enough, it will create an aerodynamic dam of sorts, which will cause the airflow to skip over the initial curve of the ogive. If you have bullets with slight inconsistent ogives, you'll see an increase in accuracy. This also depends on where the ring is located. It can also cause the bullet to have, shall we say, catastrophic terminal effects, with the nose sometimes collapsing in on itself, causing the bullet to violently come apart.
This is the whole concept of Tubb's "Nose Ring Tool". Which does work BTW. The damage to a pork shoulder at 300yds was...impressive. Especially given that the bullets were 130gr 6.5mm RDF's, which have a reputation for penciling through animals.
While the tool is fairly expensive, and licensed (to an extent), it was an interesting tool to test and work with.
Yellow arrows are exit wounds of unmodified bullets. Red arrow is a nose ringed bullet exit.
This is the whole concept of Tubb's "Nose Ring Tool". Which does work BTW. The damage to a pork shoulder at 300yds was...impressive. Especially given that the bullets were 130gr 6.5mm RDF's, which have a reputation for penciling through animals.
While the tool is fairly expensive, and licensed (to an extent), it was an interesting tool to test and work with.
Yellow arrows are exit wounds of unmodified bullets. Red arrow is a nose ringed bullet exit.
Danny Treacy
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Newbie question: If I wanted to get a prs rifle would I need to decide the calibre first or is it possible to buy a rifle that can swap the barrel for different calibres, like the Sako quad?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Andy Mauthe
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Anschutz makes both rimfire and center fire PRS rifles that have user changeable barrels. This allows the owner to change chamberings within the selection that they offer. Or you could build a rifle on an aftermarket action such as the Terminus which are available with quick change system. Also allowing the owner to easily change barrels (without special tools) to other chamberings. You just have to buy pre-fit barrels made for that action which are offered by several barrel makers here in the States. So yes there’s options out there
jthyttin
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Answer also depends on which rules are you shooting with (PRS vs. IPRF vs. something else), which class you want to shoot and if you want to be competitive.
E.g. with IPRF rules, you can have a rifle that can be shot in Factory, Limited and Open class and with barrel change be competitive in all of them. But you have to choose wisely.
I've understood that prefit barrels are not practical in UK due to legislation, intrepretation and the fact that at least some vendors won't sell directly to customer (only to RFD or smith).
E.g. with IPRF rules, you can have a rifle that can be shot in Factory, Limited and Open class and with barrel change be competitive in all of them. But you have to choose wisely.
I've understood that prefit barrels are not practical in UK due to legislation, intrepretation and the fact that at least some vendors won't sell directly to customer (only to RFD or smith).
Danny Treacy
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Thanks for the replies, what’s IPRF? I am a total newbie!
jthyttin
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I'm under the impression that in UK both PRS and IPRF rules are used (depending on match organizer).
And if you look at Events and Meetings section, NRL Hunter UK is gaining popularity fast. Kind of PRS with bit more realistic gear.
And there are more informal long distance steel shoots also.
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I'm under the impression that in UK both PRS and IPRF rules are used (depending on match organizer).
And if you look at Events and Meetings section, NRL Hunter UK is gaining popularity fast. Kind of PRS with bit more realistic gear.
And there are more informal long distance steel shoots also.
I'm curious; How does Accuracy International and Blaser get around this?
Andy Mauthe
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I believe it’s because they have achieved a system proof. That’s the way it was explained to me. The entire system is proved as opposed to just at the component level.
jthyttin
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AFAIK (that's very little about UK) if prefit barrel is CIP proofed there's no problems. This will, at least in theory, mandate that the rifle system is designed so that any barrel will be in spec with any action (or bolt, anyway the ready-to-fire combination should be safe and functioning OK).
So takedown and other systems that are designed from factory as switchbarrels are no problem. But something like Savage prefits (or other systems where headspace is defined at the time of assembly not the time of manufacture) or something like Tikka T3(x) that are not switchbarrels at all will become a problem. Theoretically somebody could proof those barrels, but there would be risk of incompatibility or error in assembly that would result in non-functioning and/or dangerous rifle.
And anyway the idea in prefit barrels is to cut off the middleman and make them more affordable and/or available for the end user. So reintroducing that middleman would kind of defeat the purpose.
So takedown and other systems that are designed from factory as switchbarrels are no problem. But something like Savage prefits (or other systems where headspace is defined at the time of assembly not the time of manufacture) or something like Tikka T3(x) that are not switchbarrels at all will become a problem. Theoretically somebody could proof those barrels, but there would be risk of incompatibility or error in assembly that would result in non-functioning and/or dangerous rifle.
And anyway the idea in prefit barrels is to cut off the middleman and make them more affordable and/or available for the end user. So reintroducing that middleman would kind of defeat the purpose.
How do you find the arca conversion?Just fitted the Area419 Harris conversion ready for the range work out on Saturday.
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