Deer Rifles
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Devon County Shooter
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. Oh and Accuracy International don't break ! Made for life 
6pt-sika
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As the darker complected folks in MY country would say "Don't be a hater" lol's ! As to hunting everyday that isn't that big a deal I hunt deer about 8 months a year now . Four months off isn't exactly a bad thing .
ferretmanabu
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No hating, just an observation that actual hunting in the US is probably more restrictive than in the UK.
Out of interest, do you need tags or permits which restrict the number of deer you shoot during those 8 months?No hating, just an observation that actual hunting in the US is probably more restrictive than in the UK.
Restrictive?
And in the UK you have how much public lands?? Not to be snarky but if I remember my geography, all of the UK will fit inside of Texas with some room to spare. After that, we have 49 other states, most of which have hunting seasons, most of which allow non resident shooters. We have deer, elk, bear, mountain sheep, mountain goat, caribou, pronghorn antelope, wild bison, moose and some exotics. All of which can be hunted on public land if you have the time and resources to buy the tag and take the time to hunt. And lets not forget the different seasons: Archery, rifle, black powder: all within an individual state. (I hunt rifle and muzzleloader in South Dakota) Some states have handgun seasons. Some states allow you to hunt in special regions by special permit; even if you have gone through a general hunting season. All it takes is money and time.
Does this really sound restrictive? I think not. Add this to the slant: We are not allowed to sell venison. What we shoot we must take for our own consumption or given away. I shot four large deer last year. It's all I can eat in a year. I saw upwards of 200 mule deer per hunting day last season. How many do you think I want to shoot? Can't sell them. Can't eat them all.... I cherry picked my deer for condition and size and killed them cleanly. (Had some seared whitetail last night. Heaven.)
I hunt Wyoming, Montana, and South Dakota for a total of six possible deer for rifle and two deer with muzzleloading rifle. I'll take one or two in Montana with a handgun, maybe. Four in South Dakota: two with rifle and try for two with muzzleloader. I don't know if I'll hunt Wyoming this year due to time constraints. I mean, how many more deer could I shoot?? Lots. Six Pt Sika hunts depredation permits. I could do the same, shooting upwards to 20 deer if I wanted at no charge, but they would go to waste and I don't hunt deer simply to kill them.
I don't know where some of you guys get the notion that hunting in the US is restrictive. We can hunt anywhere our money and free time will take us and pretty much year round. ~Muir
PS: The fees we pay for tags pays for the upkeep of these vast public lands we have. It's a small price to pay.
PPS: Lets not even get started on upland game hunting! Or waterfowling!
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6pt-sika
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No hating, just an observation that actual hunting in the US is probably more restrictive than in the UK.
I buy a state hunting license and big game tags in VA as a resident thats about $56 that entitles me to 6 deer , 3 turkey and a bear . I can buy additional blocks of 6 doe deer tags at a acost of $18 unlimited . Thats good from about September until April depending on what I wanna hunt with . On top of that I get deer and bear damage control permits for use in July August and September with NO limit other then no racked bucks .
I also hunt Maryland every year on a non res license ($156)which entitles me to 3 whitetail bucks , 30 whitetail doe , 3 Sika stags , 3 Sika hinds and a pair of wild turkey . I can also purchase an additional whitetail buck tag in Maryland for one of the seasons .
Usually the seasons end with me taking a bear and something in the 12-17 deer range . I give all the bear meat away and about 90% of the deer . Although ANY Sika I kill goes in my freezer .
Starting back in July of this year I've already taken 3 whitetails on DCP and butchered and given all that away except for the inner tenderloin off the last doe ! I hope to get 6 or 7 more and a bear before actual hunting season comes in !
After that I'll hunt easy for whitetail around my house . Hunt my two days in Maryland for Sika and possibly go with a friend that claims he can put me on a rather large bear . Would like one bear for the wall !
To be honest my killer instinct is starting to subside a bit . Although I confess if I had a place on the Eastern Shore where I could hunt Sika all season that more then likely would change !
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jthyttin
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Muir, 6pt-sika, you forgot species like feral hogs, which kind of enjoy the same status as some deer in UK (considered vermin) and can be hunted/shot all year w/ no tags, use any equipment you like including night vision etc.
On the other hand, US is a substantial chunk of land, given the current regulations (Schengen, European firearms passport) the comparation should be made between US and EU, not US and UK. There's plenty of opportunities, even low budget ones if you're only after hunting opportunities and not medal quality trophies.
Most countries have something special, I'd say take benefit of it, if you start being jealous there's no end to it.
On the other hand, US is a substantial chunk of land, given the current regulations (Schengen, European firearms passport) the comparation should be made between US and EU, not US and UK. There's plenty of opportunities, even low budget ones if you're only after hunting opportunities and not medal quality trophies.
Most countries have something special, I'd say take benefit of it, if you start being jealous there's no end to it.
see it shoot it
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interesting thread,personally I have never seen the point of having a large number of guns (unless your a collector) I feel that using say 2 rifles (1 vermin 1 deer) makes the user a better shot.
as I see it using that 1 rifle for the purpose intended means you come very confident with the equipment used.
also I find the more guns people have the quality of the guns go down and that's not to mention the glass on top.
I think having a cabinet full of different rifles is just bragging rights,just dont see the point.
as its already been said "beware of the man with 1 gun"
as I see it using that 1 rifle for the purpose intended means you come very confident with the equipment used.
also I find the more guns people have the quality of the guns go down and that's not to mention the glass on top.
I think having a cabinet full of different rifles is just bragging rights,just dont see the point.
as its already been said "beware of the man with 1 gun"
Sinistral
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I have 8... .223, .243, 6.5x55, three 303's, .270w, 308 .... Umm... not sure how it happened though
I do love the way posts veer away from the thread - now we have a minor bun fight between the Yanks & Brits on another issue..... so if I may steer this back to the OP's question.
Hello, MurrayB.
You say you've got 3 .303 British 'deer' rifles. It's rare to see a .303 'Conditioned' for deer, but as Sierra have three .311" suitable SP bullets there's no reason why it shouldn't be.
Do you use 'scopes or iron sights ... out of interest?
Sinistral
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So you have 3 x .303's all Conditioned for deer?
I'm only asking because it's a struggle to get even two rifles of an identical calibre Conditioned for the same quarry (I know not why).
2130martin
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Muir,you are a very interesting character,your wealth of knowledge on Firearms is highly respected on this site and I for one would love to hear your life story.........sorry for the forthright way of asking but I reckon there's a lot on here who would find it very interesting.........so,how about it?
True enough....
But often the desire to own more then one rifle goes beyond just necessity. Sometimes you just appreciate the weapon itself. It's no different from an art collector, or an auto enthusiast who could 'get by' with one watercolor, or a sub compact to get to the store and back.
As to proficiency, I own a few hunting rifles and I am more than competent with all of them. I know people with one rifle that are incredibly incompetent. That aspect of firearms ownership is the responsibility of the shooter and is not dependent on the number of arms one owns. ~Muir
Muir,you are a very interesting character,your wealth of knowledge on Firearms is highly respected on this site and I for one would love to hear your life story.........sorry for the forthright way of asking but I reckon there's a lot on here who would find it very interesting.........so,how about it?
Thanks for the interest but there isn't that much to tell. Just a hillbilly with too many guns and internet access. Seriously though....Over a beer face to face, maybe. Not on the internet, eh?~Muir
They are tools for different jobs.
You could replace a decent socket set with a pair of mole grips and get 95% of jobs done. I'd still rather have the right tool for the job than muddle through with something that will 'do'.
There is no reason you cannot be as good with a rifle you've never handled before as your favourite gun. I agree that familiarity with a weapon is a bonus in difficult situations.
2130martin
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Sounds good to me,will look you up when I am over your way...
No fight. Just trying to set things straight. Sorry to the OP.~Muir
2130martin
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Sorry OP,I have one deer legal rifle and get reminded I need a spare whenever it goes for repairs!!!!
see it shoot it
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can you explain "the right tool for the right job" apart from being legal that is,
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