Drone use or misuse?

[TH4]

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No you can't.
From the CAA's perspective the 'not over 120m and above 50m when over people and buildings' rule applies ... however "Under English (and Scottish I believe) law a landowner owns the airspace above his land (unless it has been expressly excluded from the lease or transfer to him) and it is therefore trespass if a developer or its contractor allows a tower crane jib to swing across land owned by other parties. An adjoining owner can obtain an injunction to prevent such trespass without needing to show that any damage has occurred.
An ‘Oversail’ licence is required and a fee must be negotiated in which the landowner can effective ask whatever they like.

Not yet tested in law the same will apply to the operation of a drone. You must have permission of the landowner to overfly their land because drone operations take place in that area below that the level at which ordinary flight takes place. This area of airspace owned by the landowner!"

So you are saying easyjet owe me a fortune for flying over my garden for the Las 20 years then? Don't think so

 

[mel b3]

Can't you just buy your own drone , and push the deer back ? , or , crash your drone into your neighbours drone ?. That would be more fun than stalking deer .

 

[muddy42]

Personally I wouldn't throw your weight around, definitely not without hard evidence. Keep shooting deer and keep your landowner happy.

 

[Miki]

So you are saying easyjet owe me a fortune for flying over my garden for the Las 20 years then? Don't think so

Is this myopia or are you just missing out bits of the previous posts ?
No, I didn't say that , nor did I imply or lead you to leap to that conclusion, you did that all by yourself.
Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982 covers your issue....

If these aircraft were in the lower stratum then you would be able to claim a fee to grant an 'oversail' licence.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) airport designers/operators thought of this so flightpaths and operation corridors for commercial aircraft are always above the lower stratum associated with your property and land.
Even when landing and taking off they only enter the lower stratum when they are over the airports boundary or are flying in airspace in which they have permission to do so.

 

[TH4]

Is this myopia or are you just missing out bits of the previous posts ?
No, I didn't say that , nor did I imply or lead you to leap to that conclusion, you did that all by yourself.
Section 76 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982 covers your issue....

If these aircraft were in the lower stratum then you would be able to claim a fee to grant an 'oversail' licence.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) airport designers/operators thought of this so flightpaths and operation corridors for commercial aircraft are always above the lower stratum associated with your property and land.
Even when landing and taking off they only enter the lower stratum when they are over the airports boundary or are flying in airspace in which they have permission to do so.

I didn't jump to any conclusion all I did was quote your half arsed post which was a bit like the shoot the drone down post. Not very sensible.

 

[Miki]

I didn't jump to any conclusion all I did was quote your half arsed post which was a bit like the shoot the drone down post. Not very sensible.

I agree, telling the OP to shoot the drone down using a shotgun was both foolish and wrong. I withdraw the comment and apologise unreservedly.
Where did I say you could charge Easyjet (or any other operator) for flying over your property ?

 

[TH4]

I agree, telling the OP to shoot the drone down using a shotgun was both foolish and wrong. I withdraw the comment and apologise unreservedly.
Where did I say you could charge Easyjet (or any other operator) for flying over your property ?

You did not mention easyjet and you also did not mention anything about the height of the drone in regards to the landowners airspace. Hence my half arsed comment. You obviously take life far too seriously you must be a real bundle of fun to be with.

 

[enfieldspares]

Lord guys don't you know, I am assuming the OP is writing of Sussex, the law relating to what you do as a livelihood, a sport, a pastime?

It is illegal IMHO as it would be classified as "a mechanically propelled vehicle" in law. In BOTH the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 AND the Deer Act 1991. The W+C 1981 stating:

Interpretation Part 1 (England and Wales) "vehicle includes aircraft, hovercraft or boat."

Report it to the police.

 

[Husky]

Posts 18 and 32 mention heights.

 

[Kjf]

There's some right tripe posted on hear sometimes

Jeeesus wept ,

Calm.down , go out n shoot deer ,

Wave at the drone if it's out when you are , and shoot the deer that it's " supposedly driving onto the other blokes land " ( before they go from.ur land to his , or his to yours ) excuse the confusion!!!! Lol, lol

But let me ask the landowners , wife's sisters, brother who has been told this off the barmaid in the local,

A nonsense post in the first place ,

Go n shoot some deer

Kjf

Ffs

 

[Taff]

So a bloke in the pub tells you the guy next door is herding your deer with a drone ?
1 you assume he does not know you
2 no one has seen the drone or heard it
3 him and his mate are probably pxxxxg themselves reading this thread.

 

[jimmer.13]

'Kamikaze pigeons' trained to intercept suspicious drones amid warnings of UAV terror threats

American researchers are examining whether the flocking instincts of pigeons can be harnessed to counter armed drones as the rapid development of 'swarm' technology prompts warnings that the emerging UAV threat is difficult to contain

inews.co.uk

Here lie’s your solution to the problem

 

[Mickeydredd]

As with many things these days, you should not operate a drone over land which you do not own without the landowner's permission, the appropriate license and public liability insurance - sound familiar?

There is NO RIGHT to DRONE.

I've watched a few of these Police Audit videos and a couple of the guys fly their 249g drones over police stations and the police cannot stop them.. I think they stated that they can fly anywhere where this is not a CAA exclusion zone - which mainly relates to around airports and prisons.

 

[JMikeyH]

6, Shoot the drone down (12G #6 shot)
7, Video it and call the police (If you fly your drone low over someone's land without their permission, you could be liable in trespass, even if you do not personally go onto the land.)

Edit. Beating dead horse and all that

 

[JMikeyH]

I've watched a few of these Police Audit videos and a couple of the guys fly their 249g drones over police stations and the police cannot stop them.. I think they stated that they can fly anywhere where this is not a CAA exclusion zone - which mainly relates to around airports and prisons.

True, and people who have certification for flying drones and an approved operations manual can fly even heavier drones. I can fly up to 25kg above someone's house completely legally. The only restrictions come in place when flying near people, flying outside of line of sight and as you say, in restricted airspace. For airports it is 2 miles diameter for smaller aerodromes and 2.5 miles for larger international airports. Military bases, prisons, government sites etc all restricted

 

[Mog]

Many thanks for all your replies, I've decided best to do nothing, I've got the numbers land owner wanted this season.
But I'm in the pub Friday, if there is another dilemma from any bar bitching I might just keep it quiet