European Superstate....

[Hayduke]

Or me may flourish without the constraints of EU regulations

Exactly which regulations have been holding back our economy? Surely the markets would be responding differently now if this was the case?

does it not perturb you that many international banks are now looking to exit UK, as will Scotland?

 

[2130martin]

Exactly which regulations have been holding back our economy? Surely the markets would be responding differently now if this was the case?

does it not perturb you that many international banks are now looking to exit UK, as will Scotland?

Have you not noticed how on our Motorways,the EU trucks(Irish especially) are always in the middle lane overtaking our UK trucks?
......Our trucks have speed restrictions as should the EU but they don't bother......that significantly adds costs to product movement/delivery!

That is a very basic example for starters

 

[digger9523]

I notice that the Remainians are skirting the European Superstate feature of the thread.....

Very keen to know their thoughts on it. They must be gutted to miss out on joining the Fourth Reich eh?

 

[Hayduke]

Thanks Martin, It isn't something I've really noticed, and I thought trucks cruise at around sixty mph was for fuel efficiency. and it was a drive economy thing that they went a bit slower.

Please can We have any more examples of how our economy will boom unfettered by EU regulations.

Serious question, I'm trying to understand this.

 

[2130martin]

Thanks Martin, It isn't something I've really noticed, and I thought trucks cruise at around sixty mph was for fuel efficiency. and it was a drive economy thing that they went a bit slower.

Please can We have any more examples of how our economy will boom unfettered by EU regulations.

Serious question, I'm trying to understand this.

Working time directive........

 

[2130martin]

Thanks Martin, It isn't something I've really noticed, and I thought trucks cruise at around sixty mph was for fuel efficiency. and it was a drive economy thing that they went a bit slower.

Please can We have any more examples of how our economy will boom unfettered by EU regulations.

Serious question, I'm trying to understand this.

EU Landfill directive.......

 

[2130martin]

Exactly which regulations have been holding back our economy? Surely the markets would be responding differently now if this was the case?

does it not perturb you that many international banks are now looking to exit UK, as will Scotland?

I could go on as I am sure many others could.

A lot of what we have had to accept as Regulations/Legislation for Health and Safety and Environment etc are good but we are at a disadvantage as our EU competitors don't enforce them as we do......
As I said months ago,we are too HONEST and NAIVE to be in Europe,to survive you have to be comfortable with a level of Corruptness!!

 

[sikamalc]

Whilst I have no issue with people discussing politics and the present situation with the EU, can we please not make inflammatory remarks, which are uncalled for. Typical of politics it drives people apart and makes enemies out of people who were friends.

There is one thing on this site that is supposed to bind us all together and that's the love of deer and deer stalking and our countryside whether it is in Scotland, England, Wales or Ireland.

Thank you

 

[Pine Marten]

There is one thing on this site that is supposed to bind us all together and that's the love of deer and deer stalking and our countryside whether it is in Scotland, England, Wales or Ireland.

Thank you

I would say that everyone should probably just go out, stalk some more deer and talk about that, but I like the deer and don't think the poor creatures should bear the brunt of this, they didn't vote...

 

[willie_gunn]

Thanks Martin, It isn't something I've really noticed, and I thought trucks cruise at around sixty mph was for fuel efficiency. and it was a drive economy thing that they went a bit slower.

Please can We have any more examples of how our economy will boom unfettered by EU regulations.

Serious question, I'm trying to understand this.

Leaving aside the obvious and hackneyed examples such as the September 2014 regulation that meant manufacturers were banned from making or importing vacuum cleaners above 1,600 watts within the European Union, what about the EU's positively glacial progress putting in place Trade Agreements with countries such as India, China, Japan, and most of the Middle East/Latin America, i.e. the world's major growth areas?

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2006/december/tradoc_118238.pdf

Remember that, as an EU member state, we have been unable to independently implement Trade Agreements.

Not necessarily related to growing the economy, but I can't mention Trade Agreements without bringing up the one-sided TTIP and the potential impact it will have - one of the main reasons Jeremy Corbyn was so lacklustre in his support of Remain and one example of why some socialists voted for Leave....

 

[bowji john]

From what I've been able to discover - the TTIP was being pushed by the UK and the EU was dragging its heals

Now we are out , we might find it foisted on us

There is not much I have in common with our pals in Euro-land, but I do share their dislike for bending over to US corporations

 

[digger9523]

Pinemarten and Hayduke still skirting nicely around the European Superstate topic I see.......

 

[Rasputin]

This notion of a European Super state is hilarious. Whilst we all agree that in the EU minds this was/has been their intention all along its NEVER going to happen now. With Tusk saying that EU citizens do not share their greater unity vision, Le Pen banging the right wing drum in France and proudly displaying the Union Jack as an example of where the EU is nothing to be afraid of hand AFD in Germany kicking up a fuss, not to mention the recent Austrian elections.

With a bit of luck the EU will come crashing down on those who seek to manipulate it for their own end, hopefully decapitating Juncker/Sturgeon in the process.

There is a simple reason that the UK is "bumbling" along seemingly without a plan at the moment, firstly because we as a nation and economy are sound. The world knows this and the markets have reacted absolutely accordingly. Secondly we hold the cards at the moment, the EU doesn't know what we have but we know exactly what they have. Now as they try to push us quickly to react we are under no obligations and if we leave it longer and they get nastier they know that this will only further stir up the dissenters within European countries. They are caught between a rock and a hard place which is great for us.

As for Scotland and the EU well I have no ill feelings towards the Scots at all but any of them who voted to leave at their last referendum have literally no say in the current process of remaining within the EU, as it was made quite clear at the time that if they voted to leave they would forfeit their membership of the EU. I find Sturgeon and Solomon's hypocrisy on this staggering.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

EU referendum: German and French to unveil European superstate blueprint post-Brexit | Politics | News | Daily Express

Didn't a little Austrian chap try this little number about 80 years ago?

Well he was interfering in another countries politics like the SNP.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

Quote..With a bit of luck the EU will come crashing down on those who seek to manipulate it for their own end, hopefully decapitating Juncker/Sturgeon in the process. Ouch....

 

[Pine Marten]

Pinemarten and Hayduke still skirting nicely around the European Superstate topic I see.......

What exactly do you want me to say? I don't think we've agreed on one single point related to this issue, I don't really see how this is going to lead to any constructive dialogue. What exactly do you wish to achieve?

For what it's worth, the expression "European Superstate" is a journalistic one loaded with derision and deliberate fear mongering in my opinion. But setting that aside, I'm all for "ever closer union", always have been. I don't have a problem with European federalism. Some things are best dealt with at a supranational level, some things are best harmonised across countries, and some things are best dealt with at a national, regional or local level. They need not be in competition. Besides, there's nothing particularly marvellous about any national government that I've ever seen that would make me think that a supranational one that you choose to cooperate with (as opposed to being imposed) is worse. There, is that what you're after? I don't know whether you think that's achieved anything much.

 

[bogtrotter]

What exactly do you want me to say? I don't think we've agreed on one single point related to this issue, I don't really see how this is going to lead to any constructive dialogue. What exactly do you wish to achieve?

For what it's worth, the expression "European Superstate" is a journalistic one loaded with derision and deliberate fear mongering in my opinion. But setting that aside, I'm all for "ever closer union", always have been. I don't have a problem with European federalism. Some things are best dealt with at a supranational level, some things are best harmonised across countries, and some things are best dealt with at a national, regional or local level. They need not be in competition. Besides, there's nothing particularly marvellous about any national government that I've ever seen that would make me think that a supranational one that you choose to cooperate with (as opposed to being imposed) is worse. There, is that what you're after? I don't know whether you think that's achieved anything much.

I kind of agree with that, it must be the blood of my French ancestor coming to the forethough I would have thought it was pretty thin by now.

 

[Kalahari]

I am afraid that it is the lack of democratic accountability that worries me.

David.

 

[willie_gunn]

What exactly do you want me to say? I don't think we've agreed on one single point related to this issue, I don't really see how this is going to lead to any constructive dialogue. What exactly do you wish to achieve?

For what it's worth, the expression "European Superstate" is a journalistic one loaded with derision and deliberate fear mongering in my opinion. But setting that aside, I'm all for "ever closer union", always have been. I don't have a problem with European federalism. Some things are best dealt with at a supranational level, some things are best harmonised across countries, and some things are best dealt with at a national, regional or local level. They need not be in competition. Besides, there's nothing particularly marvellous about any national government that I've ever seen that would make me think that a supranational one that you choose to cooperate with (as opposed to being imposed) is worse. There, is that what you're after? I don't know whether you think that's achieved anything much.

PM

The Greeks might disagree with you

 

[jimmy milnes]

For what it's worth, the expression "European Superstate" is a journalistic one loaded with derision and deliberate fear mongering in my opinion. But setting that aside,

Well isn't that exactly what's happened through the whole referendum pine martin ??