Fitting cabinet in loft.

[Big Kev]

Or grow a pair and TELL her where it’s going...............Like me!

Yeah, like the rest of us.

 

[Stalker62]

Or grow a pair and TELL her where it’s going.

I did.

That is why I have now got a cardboard girlfriend!

 

[stubear]

Your other option is buy one of the massive Liberty safes and have it downstairs - the benefit of those is that they weigh about 1600lbs empty and theres no way in hell anyones going to be walking off with that !!

 

[Bjnicholls44]

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Or grow a pair and TELL her where it’s going...............Like me!

I did try that one but its her house and the shed won't be warm enough to sleep in come the winter

 

[enfieldspares]

Maybe Prince Harry has a spare cabinet he doesn't need now? After all if he's no longer resident in the UK?

 

[Rutland lad]

I had a safe in the loft. Bloody dangerous if you ask me. Nearly came to grief more than a few times struggling up and down stepladders with rifle. Is there absolutely no outside wall (thermalite blocks are ok with resin anchors) that you can use ? Possibly put a dummy cupboard around it to hide it ? My other half didn't appreciate me crashing about with stepladders at sparrows fart getting kit out of said safe either !

 

[Pedro]

There's the problem of access and leaving a rifle out before/after a trip out as has been already mentioned. The other thing to be wary of is loft temperatures. Hot and cold breeds condensation, which breeds rust.

I don't know if you have many firearms and need a big cabinet, but if you only have a couple and a three gun cabinet, then that increases the options. Lay it down in a built-in wardrobe is a possibility. then you could fix it to the wall and floor. Is there a cupboard under the stairs that could be used? Just need to get a bit creative with your thinking and also with the missus. Explain that with your sparkling wit and repartee, everlasting love (love her long time) and financial contribution to the household, the package also includes somewhere to keep your rifle(s).

 

[terrier1]

Or grow a pair and TELL her where it’s going...............Like me!

Now single.

 

[VSS]

Loft is a daft place for a gun cabinet, IMO. You need it somewhere handy, where you can get at it without traipsing through the house and up and down stairs and ladders with your boots on.

 

[zambezi]

Everyone here has been bang on target that a cabinet in the loft is an invitation to decide to leave a gun out if it's late or it's needed early next morning and etc., etc.. And all are correct. So is there no way that you might also purchase a single gun cabinet that could be installed where it can be easily accessed to which a gun or rifle can be "decanted" to as it were in anticipation of an early start or put there after a late return?

This consideration is specifically referenced in point 2.4 of the govt Firearm Security Handbook:

 

[Heym SR20]

A lot of modern houses have isulated walls, so do many older ones with lath and plaster. I had a section of wooden instead of isulation put in behind the cabinets. They are also bolted to the floor joists.

No cabinet will ever stop a determined person. Indeed an angle grinder with cutting disk will make short work of any safe.

My suggestion would to keep your primary safe easily accessible, but then have another small safe where you keep bolts and ammo and for this to be another part of the house. That way in they do walk out with your safe they wont have the bits that go bang.

 

[slider]

Unfortunately between a carboard house and fussy girlfriend its literally the only option

Actually quite a good location if you had a swinging down access ladder and reasonable headroom. Lofts make good man caves

I’d ring your soon-to-be FEO first to see if they’re happy. Ultimately they’ll be the ones to decide yes or no so it wouldn’t hurt to be proactive initially and gauge their thoughts.

FEO"s tend to love lofts as they are rarely the target of burglars

 

[Ruger 1022]

I have a 7 gun downstairs plus a 7 gun up in the loft along with a 3 gun which I am always rotating guns around so I have the guns I am going to use easily at hand.

 

[gonzo]

Floor joists are an option too. Something like a 3gun cab on it'd side, hidden, under a bed?

I had a couple of overspill safes in the loft. Bolted down with coach bolts (think that was their name? Hex headed gert big wood screw.....) to the joists.
I removed the insulation from below, so it would get some heat from the house, and had some of the bagged insulation over the top.

If you do go for bolting to thermalite blocks (I'd chem anchor by preference) then bolt down to the floor as well.
And mounting in a corner, may make it possible to both to both walls?

Few extra ideas there.

 

[User00035]

I will add it was a pain in the arse after a while though, easy access considering it was in the loft but nowhere near as easy as opening the cupboard door

It's bad enough just having a cabinet upstairs. I always managed to **** the scope or the muzzle against something going down the stairs and if there's a moderator on it's carnage.

 

[ppaynter]

A larger patress of 25mm marine ply on a stud wall where you can fix to the studs (ie 600mm wide-ish to catch the centres) and then the cabinet coach bolted to it and the floor was acceptable in our previous house. The 25mm depth of the ply also ‘packs out’ the cabinet the distance of most skirting allowing it to sit flush against the patress and also on the floor, if that makes sense.
From experience, a cabinet in the loft becomes a pita after time.

Yes I did the same and the police were really happy with it

 

[nun_hunter]

I will add it was a pain in the arse after a while though, easy access considering it was in the loft but nowhere near as easy as opening the cupboard door

Going up the ladder is a pain but having a few cabinets bolted to joists and laying flat means its easier to pile them full of guns!

 

[wytonpjs]

My first cabinet was in the loft and bolted into the joists was fine for my FEO when they checked it over

Mine too - not quite a loft as in my new 3-storey house there is no proper loft but there are side-eaves storage spaces fitted with lockable removable steel panel doors. FEO was quite impressed! Only downside was that I had to install a gas ram on the cabinet door to offset the weight with the cabinet being on its back - works well though. Need to watch temperature extremes - gets really hot in Summer and it’s effectively “outside” in Winter.

 

[Pedro]

So, to summarise, cabinets in lofts can be done, but are best avoided if at all possible.

 

[Hulse]

I visit a lot of houses with my job and see a lot of them in lofts. Most people are more shocked I know what it is.