Thankyou! You doused cold water on the .22LR / 22 Hornet comparison before I got to it. I shoot a lot of Hornet every year. While I like the 34 to 35 grain class in my CZ, my "heavy" bullet is a Winchester 46 grain HP at 2840 fps. That will stop a Montana coyote at 200 yards with the proper shot. It would certainly kill a fox. ~Muir