Home loading steel shot for 28 bore.
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tusker
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Thanks for that buddy, lots to go at. I think in 3 years time we could have cartridge makers producing steel for the 28.
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Heym SR20
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28 Guage steel shot cartridges are available in other markets.
A very tedious video of breaking down Winchester’s offering
And details of the cartridge
winchester.com
So given that Winchester created a cartridge for the American market, I can’t see why its not beyond the whit of UK cartridge companies to offer them. If there is the demand - plenty of 28 bores and need - well they will need non toxic ammo.
A very tedious video of breaking down Winchester’s offering
And details of the cartridge
WE28GT7 | Winchester Ammunition
Whether crushing clay targets or shooting down fast flying doves, Winchester XPERT Game & Target shotshells are built for superior on-target performance. The high-velocity, steel shot payload delivers optimum energy and pattern consistency. Offered in a wide range of gauges and load...
winchester.com
So given that Winchester created a cartridge for the American market, I can’t see why its not beyond the whit of UK cartridge companies to offer them. If there is the demand - plenty of 28 bores and need - well they will need non toxic ammo.
I had a play with a few, using maxam SSB-150 but you can no longer buy that or the TPS wads I used but they are not biodegradable. Only tried them on clays, may be questionable as to how practical they would be for live quarry given the larger steel shot size required, pattern may be such you risk wounding as many as you kill stone dead.
Jocker are selling their cardboard tube wads in the u.k., clay and game have them in 12gauge but jocker make them in 28ga and .410 so possibly they will become available.
it’s fun to load them, but the price of componebts is such it will hopefully be less expensive to buy the cartridges in three years time, all be it the choice may be very limited unless all manufacturers decide to make biodegradable wads other than jocker.
With the like of 28 bores and 410 , Just shoot bismuth ! The extra cost of the bismuth itself of course increases over lead , however these small capacity shells still work out cheap ammo when you "roll your own" ammo at home 14 gram over double the shot to fill a 28 gram 12 bore .
have you not seen the fieldssports channel video bismuth has gone up to $60,000 a tonne that has added £1100 to a thousand 32gm cartridges so what around £3000 a thousand
Bismuth is no more
Sounds like I am in the money here then LOL . TBF i tend to Avoid Field sports Channel , find it a bit too sensationist personallyhave you not seen the fieldssports channel video bismuth has gone up to $60,000 a tonne that has added £1100 to a thousand 32gm cartridges so what around £3000 a thousand
Bismuth is no more
indeed i only looked as it was posted elsewhere on SD.
enfieldspares
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Is bismuth dead?
I was clay shooting today. The ground has an account with Eley. I was told that the trade price to them of Eley bismuth 32 gram 12 bore was £1600 per 1,000. Lead equivalent in 32 gram was to them £400 and steel in 32 gram "standard steel" was £600. (I have rounded down to the nearest £100) So on that basis for "vermin" probably.
Absolutely.
But for paid days on a commercial shoot at £50 a bird shot and more? It's not even five percent of the cost of the bird. But there will likely be now very little premature "popping off at pigeons" before the pheasants have started to fly over the line. So in some senses that's a blessing. Quite well disguised at £1600 per 1,000 though!
I was clay shooting today. The ground has an account with Eley. I was told that the trade price to them of Eley bismuth 32 gram 12 bore was £1600 per 1,000. Lead equivalent in 32 gram was to them £400 and steel in 32 gram "standard steel" was £600. (I have rounded down to the nearest £100) So on that basis for "vermin" probably.
Absolutely.
But for paid days on a commercial shoot at £50 a bird shot and more? It's not even five percent of the cost of the bird. But there will likely be now very little premature "popping off at pigeons" before the pheasants have started to fly over the line. So in some senses that's a blessing. Quite well disguised at £1600 per 1,000 though!
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have you see the fieldssports channel video, bismuth is likely to be £2700 or more a thousand if they manufacture at todays prices.
why given the density and size used of TSS do you think it must be only a head and neck shot?
because geese especially will fly on a long way with shots in the cavity before dropping from any load ! Realistically all well seasoned wildfowlers avoid trying intentional body shots . Why? big air sacks leak slowly ! Its not so much a Tss thing but fewer pellets or "smaller sized" pellets .
Geese are always best shot neck and head or left , wing shot and by crikey they cant half shift down the gutters and down the fields etc.
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