HOW MUCH!

bogtrotter

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Having read several posts lately from guys starting out asking about budget scopes,rifles, bino's etc. Almost invariably the answer
goes along the lines of you need brand x costing £ xxxx or buying budget is a waste of time, buy once cry once, save up until you
can afford the best and so on and so on.

Now don't get me wrong if you can afford the very best and you are happy to spend that amount great! Fill your boots but not everyone is in that position and I'm sure there are many that are put of by the perceived costs.

This made me think of what I had spent on equipment in my stalking career and realised I have spent less on stalking equipment in my
entire career than many on here have spent on a rifle scope.

Baring in mind that I was a professional stalker so any equipment that I had was in regular use if it was good enough for my job then
It would certainly adequate for a recreational stalker.

First my rifle this was an estate rifle which I received as part of a redundancy package , now not many are going to receive a rifle in these circumstances but bare with me, the rifle is now nearly forty years old with an astronomical round count and while not a thing of
beauty still shoots to p.o.a. Now to my point while this rifle is not for sale there are many similar rifles that are,value £100/£150
Not going to break the bank even for someone on a budget and a good few years left in it yet.

Total cost of repairs in the time I have owned the rifle £80

When I got the rifle it came with a japanese scope which failed dramatically after 25 years of use replaced with another Japanese
scope a Dowling and Rowe 3x9x50 the early Dowling and Rowe scopes were exceptionally good believe the later ones were not.
Bought as bankrupt stock cost £50 no idea what the retail price was but a budget scope certainly.
This scope has sat on top of the rifle for the last fourteen years
in that time the performance has been faultless.
Not saying that everyone will be able to pick up a recent scope fo £50 but there are plenty budget scopes that will fit the bill for not a lot of money.
Bipods are not a necessity but if you want one they can.be picked up relatively cheaply either S/H or there are some cheap ones sold on that well known auction site.
Moderators again not a necessity hut a good idea ( should take my own advice) can be picked up second hand from time to time but
probably worth buying new when funds allow but lack of one won't stop you from getting started.

Budget binoculars I have three pairs a pair of Opticron which if I remember correctly cost around £300 when bought six or seven years ago have performed adequately , A pair of Rocktrail Aldi specials at the Princely sum of £30 these live under the seat of the truck these are old style porro prisms but make no mistake the glass is much much better than you would expect for £30 they are rubber armoured and waterproof and would perform very well for stalking if one was on a tight budget ( personally don't like the bulk of porro binoculars) but I'm sure I could live with it if need be.

Also recently bought a pair of Vortex Diamondbacks of a member of this site ( didn't need them but have been a fan of Vortex for quite sometime ) could not resist brand new unused £125 a bargain and then some.

Recently had the opportunity to compare them at last light with a pair of Steiner Rangers and a pair of Lecia's found I preferred the
Vortex to the Steiners and as you would expect the Lecia's were better than the Vortex but not eight times better but were eight times the price in fact while the Lecia's were clearer at last light I could still see well enough with the Vortex .
Recently had a look through a pair Vortex Viper's and was very impressed will possibly update to a pair but being a tight Scot I will wait until the right pair comes along a well looked after S/H pair for example.
The Viper's might be a bit much for someone on a tight budget needing to obtain a complete stalking outfit.

While it might be nice to have the best its possible to get into stalking if you are on a budget in fact it might be an idea to save on the kit and spend the money on stalking.

Have tried to show that its possible to acquire the necessary kit on a budget of £500 even less with a bit of luck.
 
I kitted myself out for about £350 if I remember correctly:
Rifle, £150
Scope, £50
Mod, £50
Binos, Xmas pressie from mum. (They were about £25)
Deerhunter jacket and trousers combo, £90
Bipod, £18
Sticks, made my own for a few quid.
Gaiters, already had.
Knife, already had.
Walking boots, already had.

I've spent a bit more since, mind you - upgraded to a £170 scope and £100 binos, and bought another rifle for £175, and 2nd hand boots for £80, and a few other odds and ends like backpack £25, small first aid kit, spare knife, etc.

(Should just add that most items have been purchased from members of this site).
 
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I kitted myself out for about £350 if I remember correctly:
Rifle, £150
Scope, £50
Mod, £50
Binos, Xmas pressie from mum. (They were about £25)
Deerhunter jacket and trousers combo, £90
Bipod, £18
Sticks, made my own for a few quid.
Gaiters, already had.
Knife, already had.
Walking boots, already had.

I've spent a bit more since, mind you - upgraded to a £170 scope and £100 binos, and bought another rifle for £175, and 2nd hand boots for £80.

Proof that it can be done.
 
Quite agree, it all depends on what you consider if enough to spend and pockets vary. I feel its better to get out stalking rather than miss a few years saving up.
I spent about
£300 on rifle that came with a scope still using
£300 for threading and a mod
Binos where £64

That got me out.
10 years later the rifle shoots well so see no need for a change
Binos do what I require
 
Well I started off 50+ years ago with a Parker Hale .243 (£60), a Walter .22 rimfire (£50), a gunmark sable 12g s/s £50. A folding pocket pair of binos (£10). All the gear has been given away to deserving youngsters and to the best of my knowledge is still serviceable.
Now I have all the latest gear, rf binos, Thermal Spotter, nv scope, new rifles and illuminated scopes and tripod sticks etc.... do I shoot more, do I see more?
Answer: NO!

My point being, for me it’s about being out and observing nature. Do I need the latest gear? No not really, being old I just need to spoil myself after grafting hard for 50 years.

And when I’m ready to give up country sports due to the lack of mobility in the next few years, I’ll be giving all my shooting gear away to other deserving youngsters, to enable them to enjoy the thrill of stalking, pigeon shooting, rough shooting, as long as Packham and co don’t spoil things.
RS
 
If you've got the spare dosh and enjoy spending it on your chosen hobby, my view is that we come this way but once and you should do it. By the same token, if you enjoy doing well and saving money, then fill yer boots. I wouldn't knock either way. A Costapacket made-for-you rifle and an Enfield that's older than your grandfather will both get the job done.

It's like shotguns. You can spend what you bought your house for on a matching pair, or you can get a £50 old Aya Yeoman. They'll both sort that pheasant out. Or that pigeon (assuming you have jumped through all the hoops).
 
If you've got the spare dosh and enjoy spending it on your chosen hobby, my view is that we come this way but once and you should do it. By the same token, if you enjoy doing well and saving money, then fill yer boots. I wouldn't knock either way. A Costapacket made-for-you rifle and an Enfield that's older than your grandfather will both get the job done.

It's like shotguns. You can spend what you bought your house for on a matching pair, or you can get a £50 old Aya Yeoman. They'll both sort that pheasant out. Or that pigeon (assuming you have jumped through all the hoops).

All thats true but there are a lot of people who don't have a lot of cash to spend even if they would like too.
I was trying to point out that you can get into stalking without spending a fortune.
Seen to many posts that would put a novice off by leading them to believe they need a kings ransom to get started.
Its not necessarily so.
 
If I was doing it on the cheap, I would get the following:

Second hand T3 in a classic cal, .270 is my personal choice
Schmidt Bender 8x56.
Second hand votex binos (although I got second hand leica ones years ago)
All waterproofs/moleskins/outdoor clothing I would get from a rural outfitters as they are in rural colours.
Knife - same spot really.
Boots - gooutsoodoors or similar. You need to be comfortable and often these large chain stores have bargains to move on last years stock. Remember, VAT is payable on stock that hasn't been sold because it is marked up in price from when the shop bought it. They don't want to pay tax on something they haven't turned into a liquid asset - cash.

The thing is, once something becomes popular and people are willing to spank cash on it, the becomes and increase pressure on things you "need". The marketing is very good and drives participants to believe they need something they actually want.

If an individual is the sort that has taken up stalking to put on the Insta, Faceache or what ever as a sort of willy waving (or whatever the female equivalent is) and want to show people how awesome you are, can I suggest you kindly Fuc£ off and leave me to enjoy mine in peace and quiet. Ta muchly
 
When I started last year I spent:
£450 on a Howa 1500 in .308, came with mod. Would have spent less but this was close and hadn't been used much.
£50 on rings
£150 for a Leopold 6x42
Made a set of sticks , had everything I needed already.
Binos I had, Christmas present from mum years ago, although did spend £10 on a spare set that lives in partners van.
Already had knives , moras at £10ish each.
Had coats etc already.

Could have spent less if I waited for a cheaper rifle to turn up.

My stalking rifle and scope still came to less than what my new wildfowling gun cost ( present to myself for working too much overtime)

Personally I think it can be a cheap sport to get kitted out for, if you don't get sucked into buying all the top end kit.
 
If you've got the spare dosh and enjoy spending it on your chosen hobby, my view is that we come this way but once and you should do it. By the same token, if you enjoy doing well and saving money, then fill yer boots. I wouldn't knock either way. A Costapacket made-for-you rifle and an Enfield that's older than your grandfather will both get the job done.

It's like shotguns. You can spend what you bought your house for on a matching pair, or you can get a £50 old Aya Yeoman. They'll both sort that pheasant out. Or that pigeon (assuming you have jumped through all the hoops).
Typical Flexiterion view?

BC.
 
Unfortunately Jim we still have the gadget guys who have every one going. Also the guys who have a perfectly good set up. Cheap enough and shoots on the ball every time. (Actually needing less fiddling than the "modern" ones) But because their "PAL" along the road has said this other, up to date, one is a must. They go out and buy it. I meet guys 6 months later who have insisted we get them the latest ZXY, with be all turrets etc. I ask about the new gadget and get a groan and comment such as , I should have saved my money!! And of course the gun shop owner who rubs his hands saying to me " These guys keep me in business" ! As like you , Andy and I checked the Vortex against our swarovski's ( no I didn't buy them , a present in 1983 from a stalker ) Next to no difference. We seem to be very picky these days Jim. MMMMMMM wonder why that should be...John
 
Not to mention the many hundreds of pounds people spend on unnecessary “ qualifications “
Or the many hundreds of pounds people spend on leases etc, when they could just spend a few quid on placing an advert in the Farmers' Weekly!

Joking apart, I think I've probably spent more on ammunition than on anything else!
 
Some "unnecessary qualifications" can enhance your chances of a written permission to shoot, if unlike me you can't rely on word of mouth. L1 & L2 enable me to be part of a very much sought after DMG.
 
Some "unnecessary qualifications" can enhance your chances of a written permission to shoot, if unlike me you can't rely on word of mouth. L1 & L2 enable me to be part of a very much sought after DMG.
Fair enough If thats what you want still plenty of free land out there that’s private
 
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