Is BASC membership worth it?

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Just reading another post elsewhere, Insurance is not the be all & end all is it? ......... "I have contacted BASC and only received the usual 'run-around'; nothing that would help me."
A question from someone who should have been able to get a definitive answer to his needs.
 
With every insurance, the devil is in the detail.
What exactly is covered?
Is it an insurance of 1st resort (like BASC's) or do you have to go through every and any other insurance you have first?
Please remember that the shooting organisation is NOT the insurer but effectively a broker for 'their' deal with one.

In relation to 'legal cover' as i understand it, the only bit of that which has gone in BASC's is the cover to challenge Police licensing decisions in court.

I do not know about the 'expensive offices' that BASC has. I have never been to Mrford Mill and do not know if it is rented owned left to them or what, but the local office is certainly not expensive in a rural industrial estate. the company cars are relatively basic and used to carry **** to run functions and scurries etc all over the place inc down tracks and across fields.

what do BASC do?
I have enjoyed 'talking stalking' evenings,
try steel clay days,
dog scurries,
free entry for last few years to the game fair, some good effective advice on dealing with Glos Police when they were wanting to do their own thing in regard to restriction on FAC,
through their WHT stamp my fowling club has financed the purchase of 3 lots of land for shooting,
through the Wildlife Habitat creation Trust grants we are currently creating a wetland area on one of the bits of land,
had their local rep attend and help out at Junior days my fowling club arranges for juniors from ours and local other clubs,
had the Chairman at the time attend to talk directly to the membership and answer questions,
local rep gives talks about predator and vermin control at a farm location near me to the city kids that come down and stay for a week or two at a time... these kids have often never seen a field or wild animals other that pigeons and rats,
assist with writing club rules that are better suited to todays litigious culture,
been involved with other organisations in getting the 50 cal ban stopped,
worked alongside others to inform and push MP's in regards to other firearm and sporting matter at Parliament.... in HofC matters, remember that numbers are very important so the bigger the organisation is, the more pressure it can exert.
Oh and they do insurance..........


Are they perfect? no of course they are not, they are run by humans, all of which make mistakes. Are the expectations of their members always reasonable... no. None of the organisations have a magic wand which ensures that all of the wishes of all of their members are realistic or achievable.

I am and continue to be a member because I want more than just insurance and for me they have done a lot of what i have asked for , for others they have not and a some people have a huge hostility towards the organisation.
 
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OK to the nay sayers and crucifyers of basc,

so I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of any of the several other orgs "who are clearly superior" information stating that they are actively working to change or have managed to change any of hot topics that basc get a stoning for please.
Cheers Jimmy

Hopefully this may get answered before this thread goes the way of all the others that mention basc.
Ps.. Kes, I do actually admire you for standing by your principles an going stand alone for insurance, fare play to you.
 
bottletopbill said:
Pity they do not do much in the south east but glad to see the work they do in the above comments to encourage kids.
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Just checked and BASC South East are hosting 21 events between now & Christmas

9 shooting courses - all fully booked
EFAW Course
Autumn Show & Game Fair
Young Shots day
Shotgun Coach/Instructor Award
Several Sustainable Ammo "have a try" days
Several butchery and carcass courses
Intermediate deer course - carcass retrieval, gralloch and lardering.
Metallic cartridge Reloading Course
Range Day at Bisley

I would accept that not all events may be of interest to some members, but no doubt they are driven by demand and what members are asking for.
 
Funny.

Plenty hear moaning about BASC, but I don't hear reports of any other organisation fighting the shooter's corner. Nor do I see those organisations here.

I also remember one of the regular BASC-bashers here suggesting the establishment of a so-called “Countryside Fund”. Where did that end up? As ever, when it comes to doing anything practical to help shooting you get crushed in the stampede for the door from the keyboard warriors.

As to the question from @finnbear270, of whether we should ever expect a win against the “other” side, the answer is clearly no, or at least not whilst UK shooters expend all their energy arguing amongst themselves. Quite frankly we don’t deserve to win. The difference between the shooting fraternity and the antis is that they are capable of putting aside differences and uniting behind a common message. With the shooting fraternity, however, rather than pulling together and presenting a united front capable of winning, many seem to prefer to criticise from afar and argue over past battles lost.

When shooting goes, as I fear it inevitably will, the blame won’t lie with those who chose to sign up as members and support the various shooting organisations, but rather by those who felt their time was best spent in criticising those that did.
 
Oracle said:
Just checked and BASC South East are hosting 21 events between now & Christmas

9 shooting courses - all fully booked
EFAW Course
Autumn Show & Game Fair
Young Shots day
Shotgun Coach/Instructor Award
Several Sustainable Ammo "have a try" days
Several butchery and carcass courses
Intermediate deer course - carcass retrieval, gralloch and lardering.
Metallic cartridge Reloading Course
Range Day at Bisley

I would accept that not all events may be of interest to some members, but no doubt they are driven by demand and what members are asking for.
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baguio said:
And you Kes, are extremely booorrrrrrrrring! :zzz:
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Bloody Hell, it's the Three Musketeers Mike, Murray and Baguio. You three need to find a D'Artagnion to help with your preoccupation and fixation about a certain person.
Perhaps not, maybe a trickcyclist (psychiatrist) could help you. 🥱🥱🥱
Oh sorry you have one James Milne's.🤗🤪
 
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The fourth Horseman said:
Bloody Hell, it's the Three Musketeers Mike, Murray and Baguio. You three need to find a D'Artagnion to help with your preoccupation and fixation about a certain person.
Perhaps not, maybe a trickcyclist (psychiatrist) could help you. 🥱🥱🥱
Oh sorry you have one James Milne's.🤗🤪
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I have no ill feelings towards kes, he's his owm man with his own mind as am I, I'm grown up enough to ask questions and discuss an maybe disagree by being polite, perhaps some on here should be the same.
Atb
Jimmy "not James please"
 
bottletopbill said:
Pity they do not do much in the south east but glad to see the work they do in the above comments to encourage kids.
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Why not pick up the phone and have a chat with the Regional Officer?

basc.org.uk

Michelle Nudds - BASC Shotgun Coaches - South East - BASC

Michelle was born and brought up on the family farm in Surrey, taking an active part in working on the farm and business up until leaving college. Moving
basc.org.uk basc.org.uk

Where I live we are on the periphery of the South East region, but Michelle has organised Talking Stalking and other events near us. She is always looking for ideas from members for other events in the region.
 
willie_gunn said:
Why not pick up the phone and have a chat with the Regional Officer?

basc.org.uk

Michelle Nudds - BASC Shotgun Coaches - South East - BASC

Michelle was born and brought up on the family farm in Surrey, taking an active part in working on the farm and business up until leaving college. Moving
basc.org.uk basc.org.uk

Where I live we are on the periphery of the South East region, but Michelle has organised Talking Stalking and other events near us. She is always looking for ideas from members for other events in the region.
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Sadly it's much easier to moan and groan from the cheap seats Willie.
 
The fourth Horseman said:
Bloody Hell, it's the Three Musketeers Mike, Murray and Baguio. You three need to find a D'Artagnion to help with your preoccupation and fixation about a certain person.
Perhaps not, maybe a trickcyclist (psychiatrist) could help you. 🥱🥱🥱
Oh sorry you have one James Milne's.🤗🤪
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Not fixated with anyone mate. Kes only comes on here to slate BASC. That's a fixation my friend.
 
willie_gunn said:
Funny.

Plenty hear moaning about BASC, but I don't hear reports of any other organisation fighting the shooter's corner. Nor do I see those organisations here.

I also remember one of the regular BASC-bashers here suggesting the establishment of a so-called “Countryside Fund”. Where did that end up? As ever, when it comes to doing anything practical to help shooting you get crushed in the stampede for the door from the keyboard warriors.

As to the question from @finnbear270, of whether we should ever expect a win against the “other” side, the answer is clearly no, or at least not whilst UK shooters expend all their energy arguing amongst themselves. Quite frankly we don’t deserve to win. The difference between the shooting fraternity and the antis is that they are capable of putting aside differences and uniting behind a common message. With the shooting fraternity, however, rather than pulling together and presenting a united front capable of winning, many seem to prefer to criticise from afar and argue over past battles lost.

When shooting goes, as I fear it inevitably will, the blame won’t lie with those who chose to sign up as members and support the various shooting organisations, but rather by those who felt their time was best spent in criticising those that did.
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Dom, How many years ago did we attend the AGM at Stirling?, Why did it have to come down to a pandemic to take up the slack with modern tech?
 
finnbear270 said:
Dom, How many years ago did we attend the AGM at Stirling?, Why did it have to come down to a pandemic to take up the slack with modern tech?
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It was 11 years ago.

www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk

Questions for the Basc AGM

I will be asking some questions of my own at the AGM, if anyone who cannot attend would like a question to be put to the chairman, then I would only be to glad to. I shall also after reading some of the posts on this site be putting to the chair how dissilusioned some members are,and point...
www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk

I still think of it when Mrs Gunn and I go past the Black Bull pub in Moffat as we head to The Rumblin’ Tum for breakfast. She is also heartily sick of me insisting we drive up and see the Moffat Spitfire every time too ;)

To be fair to BASC, if you look at that thread @David BASC responded to it even back then.

I seem to recall the argument at the time was that BASC should run a forum for their members, somewhat akin to SD, as a way of gaining feedback. I am still not sure that would be the best investment of their time and money, though, as I can imagine they would spend most of their time sorting out the trolls.

They have had a membership area of the BASC website for some years now, not that I ever use it :-|
 
Sorry as Oracle as shown I was wrong about the courses in SE. Wanted to book one but I do not hold a ds1 so will look for a alternative course .
 
The fourth Horseman said:
Bloody Hell, it's the Three Musketeers Mike, Murray and Baguio. You three need to find a D'Artagnion to help with your preoccupation and fixation about a certain person.
Perhaps not, maybe a trickcyclist (psychiatrist) could help you. 🥱🥱🥱
Oh sorry you have one James Milne's.🤗🤪
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Ok Fourth Horseman or whatever you are called 🤔🤔🤔

Where is that ignore button 🤪
 
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