Is Venison going the same way as our game birds?

[User00003]

What? The only way to reduce supply is to:
a) Stop shooting them (That's why the deer numbers are rising out of control) and will quickly result in you losing your permissions.
b) Dispose of the carcasses somehow without putting them into the food chain.
Which option are you going to recomend?

This idea of an exploding deer population is antiquated. There are micropockets of deer overpopulation but in the majority, deer levels are falling.

Non-local game dealers or wholesalers would be happy to pay high rates for your venison, you just need to think outside the box and set up the network. They already travel all over the uk in big chiller trucks, so the failure to find a good sales network lies in your hands.

 

[User00003]

How many suffering under this price oppression have spoken to some of the mobile game dealers offering £2.20/kg and who pick up en-route? I know several, but it’s your problem to resolve.

if you don’t have the larder facilities to store venison in large quantities until a pickup is due, yes, you’re going to be weeded out

 

[User00025]

How many suffering under this price oppression have spoken to some of the mobile game dealers offering £2.20/kg and who pick up en-route? I know several, but it’s your problem to resolve.

if you don’t have the larder facilities to store venison in large quantities until a pickup is due, yes, you’re going to be weeded out

It's alright for you but I don't know of any Martian dealers that pick up in East Anglia. It's a long way to come.☻

 

[User00003]

It's alright for you but I don't know of any Martian dealers that pick up in East Anglia. It's a long way to come.☻

How many have you called and asked?

 

[User00025]

How many have you called and asked?

No inter galactic phone my friend.

 

[Richiee_Nankz_Knivez]

I am seeing the price of venison going down even more now, my local game dealer only giving 50p a lbs for fallow and only to regular customers!
We get nothing for our game birds now after being told we have to take better care of them and pass wild meat hygiene courses and have chillers to store them and some are even paying to have there game dealers take them!
With more people taking an interest in stalking then ever before we seem to be ending up with more deer at our game dealers now which is pushing the price down as well as venison coming in from all round the world, maybe this is why prices are going down?
Maybe it's the use of thermal spotters and scope making it easy and producing more deer at the dealers?
Anyway are we going to be giving our deer to the game dealers before long and end up the same as our game industry?

Morning Tony

As the future of the sport, and now starting my keepering life, it upsets me dearly, to see game dealers, refuse to take shot game birds, and in some cases ask for money to take them away. Do we need to start another outlet like feeding the homeless or school meals or even the the military, so that this is not the start of potential jobs being lost in the future.

 

[Teckleben]

A lot of venison is imported to the uk as they can not get enough farmed deer to meet demands. They want farmed venison for quality control. I see on a weekly basis the **** that people leave in there chillers for dealers to collect and it’s disgusting. There are so many so call experts out there that couldn’t dress a deer to save there life’s. The wild deer shot in this country have mainly consumed in Europe and that market due to many reasons now has no legs. Hopefully the price drop will get rid of the muppets and proper stalks will carry on or will be paid for there services. I personally think the deer stalking in this country needs a good shake up!!

 

[Teckleben]

Morning Tony

As the future of the sport, and now starting my keepering life, it upsets me dearly, to see game dealers, refuse to take shot game birds, and in some cases ask for money to take them away. Do we need to start another outlet like feeding the homeless or school meals or even the the military, so that this is not the start of potential jobs being lost in the future.

thankfully most of the avenues you mention above have already or are in the process of being opened! A lot of time money and marketing has been spent on the feathered game industry and we are not out the dark but are moving in the right direction

 

[Dexter]

A lot of venison is imported to the uk as they can not get enough farmed deer to meet demands. They want farmed venison for quality control. I see on a weekly basis the **** that people leave in there chillers for dealers to collect and it’s disgusting. There are so many so call experts out there that couldn’t dress a deer to save there life’s. The wild deer shot in this country have mainly consumed in Europe and that market due to many reasons now has no legs. Hopefully the price drop will get rid of the muppets and proper stalks will carry on or will be paid for there services. I personally think the deer stalking in this country needs a good shake up!!

I have to agree on that one. I have taken out loads of stalkers who have gralloched plenty of deer in their lives and have insisted on gralloching what they've shot with me. Unfortunately I have been forced to stop many of them before they condemned the carcass. I recognise the names of some who they claim taught them locally. Sadly the same names keep cropping up and it's worrying. I know that we all have different abilities but a little extra time and care makes a whole load of difference to the final product. Get a bad name and you will never lose it.

 

[cookingfat]

A lot of venison is imported to the uk as they can not get enough farmed deer to meet demands. They want farmed venison for quality control. I see on a weekly basis the **** that people leave in there chillers for dealers to collect and it’s disgusting. There are so many so call experts out there that couldn’t dress a deer to save there life’s. The wild deer shot in this country have mainly consumed in Europe and that market due to many reasons now has no legs. Hopefully the price drop will get rid of the muppets and proper stalks will carry on or will be paid for there services. I personally think the deer stalking in this country needs a good shake up!!

I have to agree with what you say,
I some times see carcasses hung up that I would have thrown in the dead pit!

Some years ago the NGO deer branch chairman came up with an idea of a assurance system whereby the stalker would have his own stamp that would prove he/she was only putting in animals that where of a high class and much care had be taken with hygiene and for this he\she would be given a bit of a premium, at the time the other Organisations thought it would be workable, I still think that some kind of assurance scheme would be of benefit to our industry.

 

[foxdropper]

Still see quite a few deer at my dealers with the ass still in and chest not spread ,worse still smelling of **** where the bladder was broken .I think this is despite some having done the courses and been taught properly and is down to personal sloppiness rather than anything else ,the sort that don’t wash the backs of trucks out either

 

[howa243]

Just been told 60p a lb in Leic's area. They can go f themselves. Buying more freezers and fettling them for family and friends rather than give in.

Do you mind me asking who is paying that?

 

[User00025]

Do you mind me asking who is paying that?

I would tell you if you published where you live approx. But as you haven't provided that basic info I won't say.

 

[howa243]

I would tell you if you published where you live approx. But as you haven't provided that basic info I won't say.

I live in Leicestershire. Hence the question. No worries though.

 

[cookingfat]

Morning Tony

As the future of the sport, and now starting my keepering life, it upsets me dearly, to see game dealers, refuse to take shot game birds, and in some cases ask for money to take them away. Do we need to start another outlet like feeding the homeless or school meals or even the the military, so that this is not the start of potential jobs being lost in the future.

Yes Richie,
Maybe we should think about starting something up to compete with the game dealers, As I said in my last post about an assurance scheme for venison which has been look after.

 

[countrryboy]

Yes Richie,
Maybe we should think about starting something up to compete with the game dealers, As I said in my last post about an assurance scheme for venison which has been look after.

Is the assurance scheme not wot either trained hunter status or dsc2 was meant to achieve??

I think the not way is for regional areas or big estates to set up themselves.
As I've said how can a game dealers justify his rates when the tail price of venison stays the same?? Surely it should come down as he buys the deer cheaper

 

[Alastair Boston FC]

This idea of an exploding deer population is antiquated. There are micropockets of deer overpopulation but in the majority, deer levels are falling.

Non-local game dealers or wholesalers would be happy to pay high rates for your venison, you just need to think outside the box and set up the network. They already travel all over the uk in big chiller trucks, so the failure to find a good sales network lies in your hands.

Coming soon - NGDA Game Guide

Thought this may be of interest.

 

[SDM]

Just read that the UK will import approx 3000 tonnes of venison in 2020

 

[sauer]

Supermarkets aren’t interested in wild venison due to the nature of supply and all inconsistencies that comes with it.

They have such power and basically rule farming industry and prices

Farmed venison what they want ....


Paul

 

[foxdropper]

Coming soon - NGDA Game Guide

Thought this may be of interest.

Left a message as to how the industry is to move forward without supply as more and more turn to home butchering .