Knife Sharpening : Again !

Nimrod1960

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Getting frustrated with my inability to keep/get a really good edge on a Mora with a Warthog V sharpe.

Would stropping make a really significant difference?

Tips and pointers much appreciated.
 
Getting frustrated with my inability to keep/get a really good edge on a Mora with a Warthog V sharpe.

Would stropping make a really significant difference?

Tips and pointers much appreciated.
Stropping refines an edge , it does not correct it . Carrying on from that one , most people sharpen a knife that wasn't too bad and create some level of burr , though they tend to miss it and carry on until the edge they created no longer has a burr and the edge geometry gets totally messed up .
Its not hard to do when you know how , for example i once sharpened the entire knife rack after consuming way to much wine as someone said one dragged a bit . I wont say they where great but they all cut very well enough to leave them as they where a few days
Keeping an edge is about that which you cannot control as the time of re-sharpening , its about 1. steel used 2. the heat treatment 3. the overall geomety
 
Getting frustrated with my inability to keep/get a really good edge on a Mora with a Warthog V sharpe.

Would stropping make a really significant difference?

Tips and pointers much appreciated.

I'm not an expert or a knifemaker but I find Moras very easy to sharpen. They're got a ready made angle guide built in as they are scandi grind. I leave them as they are angle-wise and just a quick rub on a fine stone works for me - a few passes each side and keep on top of them. When I've tried a sharpening system on them in the past (Lanksy) it changed the factory angle and basically made a mess of them!
 
I'm not an expert or a knifemaker but I find Moras very easy to sharpen. They're got a ready made angle guide built in as they are scandi grind. I leave them as they are angle-wise and just a quick rub on a fine stone works for me - a few passes each side and keep on top of them. When I've tried a sharpening system on them in the past (Lanksy) it changed the factory angle and basically made a mess of them!
Yep " the overall geometry " Unless you have the skills and the kit " just sharpen it using the original geometry
 
I've sharpened my various knives - Buck & Gerber - using Lansky system until they would dry shave.
They don't hold an edge for long though - grade of steel or too fine an angle?
What angle do you guys generally recommend?
 
Mora are carbon steel so will never hold an edge, edge holding is the preserve of the super steels, VG10 Etc
A mora will teach you everything about sharpening.

The two best things you can buy for sharpening ar a black sharpie pen and a jewellers loop
With them you get real time feedback, you can start to get a feel for what your efforts are doing to the blade.

Lansky pretty good, I use a Spyderco sharp maker, full set of good hones is a grand.

Have fun
 
Getting frustrated with my inability to keep/get a really good edge on a Mora with a Warthog V sharpe.

Would stropping make a really significant difference?

Tips and pointers much appreciated.
I’ve lost count of different grinds for knives I’ve had which I’ve messed up, if I done scandi grind it would more sharp before I sharpened it ( not joking) now I use flat grind only blades and can get them very sharp 99% with a strop or a. Very Light rub over with a stone
 
Mora are carbon steel so will never hold an edge, edge holding is the preserve of the super steels, VG10 Etc
A mora will teach you everything about sharpening.

The two best things you can buy for sharpening ar a black sharpie pen and a jewellers loop
With them you get real time feedback, you can start to get a feel for what your efforts are doing to the blade.

Lansky pretty good, I use a Spyderco sharp maker, full set of good hones is a grand.

Have fun
That's not entirely true at all. There are plenty of high carbon steels used in knives that hold a good edge . Indeed some real high wear steels are a far bigger issue when it comes to re-sharpening , i dont really think i need to even clarify the why as its all in the name .
The cutting edge part of many high end pattern welded kitchen knives is 1095hc and similar .
Last thing you want in a bushcraft knife is high wear and high hardness .
 
Moras I just follow the angle. Generate a small burr before taking it off on the opposing side, once tge bur is gone then strop a few times each side until its like a razor. Moras make good practice for sharpening on stones/strop until you get used to holding a consistent angle.
 
Sharpening; been to hell and back. Couldn’t use whetstones to save my life. Tried a warthog which was ok, but didn’t give a razors edge, and I couldn’t use it on my convex falky F1 which was at the time my main blade.

My advice is get a decent knife, get it professionally sharpened by longstrider then absolutely get a strop. He used to make them but doesn’t now sadly, I still have one, it is about a foot long bit of old belt on a bit of MDF, then using ‘Smurf poo’ blue engineering compound strop the knife after every use not letting it get dull. I have a Danum, falkniven and one of snakes knives, all pop hairs for fun, and never see stones or any device just constant minor amounts of stropping.
 
First let manage expectations. Most knives and blades used in butchery, cooking, hunting, carving, woodwork etc do not keep a really sharp edge for very long. Most using a blade will touch it up after every few cuts.

In the field, how long a gralloching knife keeps an edge really depends on how you use it. What really kills it is touching bone - removing the legs, head and opening up chest cavity.

I use the Mora Companions. They are really good for one or two animals. I carry two when in the field, both fully sharpened. When the edge starts going it’s put to one side for the heavy duty leg removal, head type stuff, leaving the remaining one for the delicate work.

To bring back the edge is but a few strokes on a good steel or sharpening stick.


Other knives will hold an edge longer, but will require a lot more sharpening.

Sharpening is one of those that any hunter, chef, outdoorsman should really learn - it’s a core skill that is just as essential as gun cleaning and maintenance. Indeed in the core best practice, DSC 1 or 2 etc knife work, including sharpening, should be part of it all.

And whilst shaving sharp is wonderful, it is not really necessary for good practical sharpness - but essential on youtube videos.
 
First let manage expectations. Most knives and blades used in butchery, cooking, hunting, carving, woodwork etc do not keep a really sharp edge for very long. Most using a blade will touch it up after every few cuts.

In the field, how long a gralloching knife keeps an edge really depends on how you use it. What really kills it is touching bone - removing the legs, head and opening up chest cavity.

I use the Mora Companions. They are really good for one or two animals. I carry two when in the field, both fully sharpened. When the edge starts going it’s put to one side for the heavy duty leg removal, head type stuff, leaving the remaining one for the delicate work.

To bring back the edge is but a few strokes on a good steel or sharpening stick.


Other knives will hold an edge longer, but will require a lot more sharpening.

Sharpening is one of those that any hunter, chef, outdoorsman should really learn - it’s a core skill that is just as essential as gun cleaning and maintenance. Indeed in the core best practice, DSC 1 or 2 etc knife work, including sharpening, should be part of it all.

And whilst shaving sharp is wonderful, it is not really necessary for good practical sharpness - but essential on youtube videos.

For knives a general scandi type blade is fine for all particularly the biggest 3 deer species, keeping it sharp is part two of the equation
I can sharpen most knives to a ok edge and that’s it, scandi grind is a no go area and by crikey I’ve tried because the grind is perfect for legs and head removal particularly on larger deer

I think my expectations of sharp is perhaps set tooo high

The only grind I can sharpen to very very sharp is flat grind with a secondary bevel hence I have only those that I use in my bag

I’ve seen on occasions times when a guy has say just shot a Muntjac and it’s gralloch time
Goes to open to gralloch the tough old muntjac skin won’t split and in frustration the stabbing starts and no it’s a down hill struggle

What people are told what to buy and then what they buy can be completely different by a long chalk peoples ideas of a working knife from 3 and 6 pence through to £360.00. They all cut when new, all the malarkey I only use a cheap blade is in case I lose it or it’s good enough is because the guy has frequent sharpening skills for that grind 👍 he is on a winner
The 360 guy thinks his purchase will cut concrete because of how much it cost and heresay, do a couple deer and not sharp anymore, out comes the FOC strop that don’t work so a stone comes then a strop again, end result lovely but it’s blunt. 🥺. Hasn’t spent anytime learning about what he can do himself properly so he either gets a mate to chivvy it up or send it back for a resharp - Still no time spent on finding the right blade / grind he can sharpen and sometime or other it will be blunt again. You know - send it back for a resharp
Bit of time finding your own skill level and grind to keep your treasured blade razor and you like and want to use, its certainly worth research into knife, grind and sharpening as its really essential

I’ve beenn through the hoop a few times myself but I’m improving 🤣🤣🤣
 
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You’ll have to skip past the nonsense at the start but the rest of the clip is good. It mentions “scandivex”, changing a scandi grind to a cross between a scandi and convex. I have a couple of moras and basically ignore the scandi grind- it works for me.
 
Getting frustrated with my inability to keep/get a really good edge on a Mora with a Warthog V sharpe.

Would stropping make a really significant difference?

Tips and pointers much appreciated.
I find my warthog works pretty good with cheaper carbon steel mora but not with the slightly more expensive stainless ones.. suits me ! I know what ones il be buying
It's hardly shaving sharp but I don't want it to be as thats pointless especially if you're gonna split the sternum if you've forgot your saw..
I discovered just how sharp it was recently when I sliced Into my finger during a gralloch..
I normally give it 20 strikes for good measure , 30 if I've done a few deer on the day
 
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I’ve tried a few sharpening options and find this one is my current favourite, very user friendly and razor sharp results are achievable with relative ease

 
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