greenshoots
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Uberti 45-60
which model
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which model
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Lever Action
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deerwarden
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Its a Winchester 73 on steroids, with an overall length of 49" with a 7/8" thick barrel that's 28" long. Logo says Made for the E.M.F. Co LA. CAL. You know you are carrying it compared to a Win 73 carbine for sure. Winchester bought out the 45-60 and 45-75 as too many hunters were being badly mauled by big game when shot with the 73 saddle carbine. I'm going to fit a tang sight to the rear and maybe a globe sight to the front, will see what others have done as current sights don't do justice to the rifle. Very few dings to the wood at all. As an aside I wanted to use this on deer witch my police force refused as there was no data for them to view. I sent loads of reloading data that they had to accept, and allow me to use the rifle accordingly. deerwarden
alberta boy
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The Uberti's are really well built rifles . I almost bought a 73 repro in 44/40 a while back . Unfortunately , my wife was with me and the look she gave me made it clear that I should pass on it lol . The 45/60 is a great bush cartridge , but even here , it's a rare chambering , very cool .
A tang sight will definitely help in the accuracy department , there's still a good selection available out here . They might be a little scarce in your part of the world though .
AB
A tang sight will definitely help in the accuracy department , there's still a good selection available out here . They might be a little scarce in your part of the world though .
AB
greenshoots
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would not hot rod it 73 is a week toggle action are you sure its a 73 and not a 76
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Smellydog
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It's a bit of a myth all that. It's been demonstrated not to be true and there are such actions in 44 magnum.
We should not forget that peak pressure is not subjected to the lock up entirely. Peak pressure causes the case to grip the chamber wall at peak pressure.
All manner of destruction tests were done and published by Winchester over a century ago.
deerwarden
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No its definitely a 76, it has a heavy octagonal barrel and as said a great follow up gun in heavy brush, have taken deer to just below 100 yards, but I want to fit a marbles tang sight to it, there's a website in the states that has lots of imfo on the various 45 cal and upwards lever action called cass city well worth a look deerwarden
deerwarden
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Thanks Southern, I'll give that load a try as I have 2 tubs of H4198 in my powder store. deerwarden
greenshoots
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No its definitely a 76
thought it was still a week toggle action, and i would advise sticking to low black powder level loads
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thought it was still a week toggle action, and i would advise sticking to low black powder level loads
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Smellydog
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Based on what evidence please?
enfieldspares
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DEERWARDEN - 40-65 is a good calibre. It is ALREADY "deer legal" (for muntjac and CWD) in England and Wales under the Deer Act 1991 as amended in 2007 or so:
(6)A person shall not be guilty of an offence under section 4(2)(a) above if he uses for the purpose of taking or killing or injuring any Chinese water deer (Hydropotes inermis) or muntjac deer (Muntiacus reevesi)—
(a)a rifle having a calibre of not less than .220 inches and a muzzle energy of not less than 1,356 joules (1000 foot pounds), and
(b)a soft-nosed or hollow-nosed bullet weighing not less than 3.24 grammes (50 grains)
(6)A person shall not be guilty of an offence under section 4(2)(a) above if he uses for the purpose of taking or killing or injuring any Chinese water deer (Hydropotes inermis) or muntjac deer (Muntiacus reevesi)—
(a)a rifle having a calibre of not less than .220 inches and a muzzle energy of not less than 1,356 joules (1000 foot pounds), and
(b)a soft-nosed or hollow-nosed bullet weighing not less than 3.24 grammes (50 grains)
greenshoots
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Based on what evidence please?
personal experience i was lucky that only the toggle link pin sheared, italian copy of a 76 nwmp carbine in 45-75 and these loads were mild bp loads, i suggest if any one is going to hot rod 73/76 actions take the pins out and mic them and make some spares
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personal experience i was lucky that only the toggle link pin sheared, italian copy of a 76 nwmp carbine in 45-75 and these loads were mild bp loads, i suggest if any one is going to hot rod 73/76 actions take the pins out and mic them and make some spares
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Smellydog
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That is very strange as when the action is closed any bolt thrust generated should bear on the links and not through the pins.
Maybe yours was a poorly assembled one. I have come across this in some lever actions of later manufacture.
Also I never advocate low power loads in these actions, they can with a build up of bullet lube in the chamber cause the case to not grip the chamber and thus impart more thrust on the locking mechanism than a full power load. I also recommend for the same reasons a fine grade of black powder.
Luger managed to not only to make a reliable togglelinked pistol but also made a rifle for the large Mauser cartridges and also submitted them for trials for the German army. I never heard of them failing.
enfieldspares
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Vickers as in the Vickers Pedersen also made a toggle link rifle in .276 which was for its day an extremely high velocity powerful cartridge. Lugers do eventually, or can eventually, fail. The ramps that the toggle operates on will wear.
I've got two lever action rifles at the moment. A Marlin 1895 in .45-70 and a Winchester '94 in .357. I've also got a .30-06 Browning BLR on it's way, should be with my RFD next week.
The .45-70 and .30-06 were easy to get conditioned for field use. The .357 isn't happening no matter how hard I try. My force are having none of it for foxing or deer stalking so I've given up. It's not like I haven't got anything else to use so I can't be bothered to fuss too hard about it. I asked about foxes on it last week as I wanted a subsonic round that has a bit more grunt than a .22lr but no. Hey ho, 500gr .45-70 can be subsonic and the .30-06 too if I run heavy cast bullets through it with a reduced load from the Lyman cast bullet handbook. There's more than one way to skin a cat!
The .45-70 and .30-06 were easy to get conditioned for field use. The .357 isn't happening no matter how hard I try. My force are having none of it for foxing or deer stalking so I've given up. It's not like I haven't got anything else to use so I can't be bothered to fuss too hard about it. I asked about foxes on it last week as I wanted a subsonic round that has a bit more grunt than a .22lr but no. Hey ho, 500gr .45-70 can be subsonic and the .30-06 too if I run heavy cast bullets through it with a reduced load from the Lyman cast bullet handbook. There's more than one way to skin a cat!
I've never understood why we don't get given a maximum number of guns based upon our inspected storage capacity and a maximum calibre based upon need and experience. Anything under that we could buy and sell as we please. It would save a fortune in admin! The most stupid of all is you can't just replace like for like, they have to pass it. That really is baffling!
Smellydog
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You have to give a good reason to posses.....
The problem with that is some forces judge the good reason and the law mentions nothing about judging the good reason.
alberta boy
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That's to bad about the 357 , it's perfect for fox and other similar sized game , including Roe and Muntjac , but that's another thread . That being said , you can do a lot with good cast bullets in a 30/06 . I've used them on everything from Hares to Coyotes over the years in various 06's , where there's a will there's a way . You'll like the BLR , I have a very old BLR in 308 . It's an accurate handy little thing that will cover most of what I need to do , which is quite a lot actually .
AB
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