Iv shot loads off hand but out of the deer I have seen how a rifle performs from a rest is far more important than how it performs free hand
Lightweight rifle accuracy
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PEA
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This thread was a very interesting read. I have a carbon crest in 7prc and it definitely needs to be shot much differently to any other rife that I have. The 204 is by far the most user friendly rifle and really doesn't need any effort to group but the 7prc defiantly needs the attention to get good groups. It will be interesting to shoot it tomorrow with a mod on it as I've only shot it without so far. I'm guessing it will help it a little.
Lloyd90
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What do you mean you’re not buying the hold the forend ethos? It’s a 100% proven issue with light rifles in non-mild recoiling calibres.
Are you saying everyone is wrong?
The reason people shoot ok off a bipod is usually because it’s ‘not’ a featherweight barrel. Take a 30-06 in a 18” featherweight barrel and a 165g load, put on a bipod and shoot without holding on to the beast, see how it groups…then do the same with a good front daypack or sandbag rest,
Nipping the forend with a slightly firm hold, and watch the groups shrink before your eyes.
I have this exact issue with a lightweight 308, 18” barrel, jumping about. My previous shooting of rimfire, 223 and 243 I was left puzzled why my same technique wasn’t producing the accuracy I wanted.
Have had to read up about the technique needed and advice re the fore end hold.
What do you use? A daypack under the front of the rifle?
Have started having a look at Nathan Fosters website.
Everyone should be compelled to own and learn to 'shoot' a lightweight stutzen.
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I think many don't get that using a lighter weight bullet and a lighter load ( while staying deer legal ) makes a far easier to carry and accurate rifle. while i don't need to drop the powder back with any of my rifles on deer , I shoot 100 grain ttsx copper. If i loaded the heavy end of the 260 rem i could be looking at 50% or so more weight in the bullet THE RECOIL WOULD BE A FAIR AMOUNT MORE TO MANAGE , spotting the strike would therefore less reliable also i would be less able to get a bunch more down when culling . We no longer need heavier bullets using the best of the lighter copper bullets Near enough all Reds at ranges up to 300 yards will have an exit when shot broadside.
Super light single shot rifles are great , so long as you only want one deer and you never mess up That happening is always going to raise its ugly head though at some stage and a second quick shot by a bolt gun , you don't even have to take your head of the stock !
Super light single shot rifles are great , so long as you only want one deer and you never mess up That happening is always going to raise its ugly head though at some stage and a second quick shot by a bolt gun , you don't even have to take your head of the stock !
Smellydog
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Nonsense. Naturally one lifts the head to evaluate the shot.
I've seen many a person not bothering to cycle the action in disbelief sometimes.
Having the thought that a rapid number of shots are available can encourage a rushed first shot where as a single shot will encourage a more diligent shot.
One will also be very good at instinctively reloading a single shot very quickly without having to take ones eyes off the target.
As for shooting numerous animals they either stand long enough for a couple more or the whole herd disappears in a flash.
I shoot a Winchester 94 that will hold 7 or 8 rounds. One or twice I've used a second shot. And I would of had time to single feed it!
I've seen many a person not bothering to cycle the action in disbelief sometimes.
Having the thought that a rapid number of shots are available can encourage a rushed first shot where as a single shot will encourage a more diligent shot.
One will also be very good at instinctively reloading a single shot very quickly without having to take ones eyes off the target.
As for shooting numerous animals they either stand long enough for a couple more or the whole herd disappears in a flash.
I shoot a Winchester 94 that will hold 7 or 8 rounds. One or twice I've used a second shot. And I would of had time to single feed it!
bobthenailer
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I have many times shot multiple Deer from a group using A couple of my single shot rifles, (Ruger No1 and a Bakial IJ18 Break action) I have never felt at a disadvantage when using them.
It's all about practice and technique in reloading. Incidentally I have witnessed some people cock up the 1st, 2nd and even 3rd shot using a magazine fed bolt action.
As I said before it's all about practice and and learning how your firearm works, I shoot my single shots very differently to my AI and my SSG08 but to say that using any light weight or single shot rifle puts you at a disadvantage is just wrong.
Kind regards, Bob.
It's all about practice and technique in reloading. Incidentally I have witnessed some people cock up the 1st, 2nd and even 3rd shot using a magazine fed bolt action.
As I said before it's all about practice and and learning how your firearm works, I shoot my single shots very differently to my AI and my SSG08 but to say that using any light weight or single shot rifle puts you at a disadvantage is just wrong.
Kind regards, Bob.
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