Mauser reintroducing the 7x57 in several of it's rifles for the 130th anniversary of the cartridge.

Indeed 👍

I believe some american made 7x57s can have shorter throats, perhaps upon request. But these were made before the modern (ever stronger) growing push towards non lead, so they might go back to the longer throats in the future, i suppose.
But as i read the america gun writer, who himself uses the x57 quite a bit, it isnt so much short vs long throats that's the problem, is that there can be found a good bit of variance even between longer throated rifles.👍

But as Heym said, if you're tailor making your loads anyways in the right way, it probably holds little importance. If you want a cartridge where the chance of using someones elses load recipe with quicker and more frequent success , a cartridge with less variance on this area is perhaps better. :-| But again i dont hold vast relaoding experience, in fact i am only getting started. This is just what i picked up when ressearching reloading the 7x57, prior to that.👍

EDIT: John Barsness is the name of the 7x57 using gunwriter i have mentioned in this thread. He posts as Muledeer over on 24hrcampfie , i believe, and has written several articles and posts on the old 7, and on reloading for it, including the throat factor.

Nathan Foster on his 7x57 page, also mentions the variating throat lengths that one can experience with 7x57s, and the effect it can have on muzzle velocities.
And any short throated 7x57 after a a few thousand rounds will become a long throated one!
 
Thanks to all the Contributors of this thread from a long time enthusiast of the 7x57/275Rigby calibre. I always aspired to a real Rigby275, but never quite got there, I started with a RugerMk2 , which was 'agricultural' but shot very well with various homelands from 120Gn to 160Gn on all UK species, had a semi custom Tikka695 in 275Rigby chambering that was stupid accurate and graduated from that to a Custom 7x57 on a Borden action that shoots better than I can on a good day. I always appreciate the mild mannered with very effective terminal results that are the hallmark of the calibre. Currently using Peregrine 140Gn VG3 over Vit140 or RL15 (2850 fps mv) to very good effect on Fallow and Roe with minimal meat damage.
 
Thanks to all the Contributors of this thread from a long time enthusiast of the 7x57/275Rigby calibre. I always aspired to a real Rigby275, but never quite got there, I started with a RugerMk2 , which was 'agricultural' but shot very well with various homelands from 120Gn to 160Gn on all UK species, had a semi custom Tikka695 in 275Rigby chambering that was stupid accurate and graduated from that to a Custom 7x57 on a Borden action that shoots better than I can on a good day. I always appreciate the mild mannered with very effective terminal results that are the hallmark of the calibre. Currently using Peregrine 140Gn VG3 over Vit140 or RL15 (2850 fps mv) to very good effect on Fallow and Roe with minimal meat damage.
Hello mate, and thank you for contributing to the thread as well :) 👍

VRG3s eh, i had only really considered the vrg4s, but i will mainly be hunting woodlands and meadows in the future, so perhaps i should consider the 3s instead? Or what would you recommend? And are VG3s worth it over the fox classic for example, should you have had experience using both? :)
Cheers again for the input buddy :)
 
Hello mate, and thank you for contributing to the thread as well :) 👍

VRG3s eh, i had only really considered the vrg4s, but i will mainly be hunting woodlands and meadows in the future, so perhaps i should consider the 3s instead? Or what would you recommend? And are VG3s worth it over the fox classic for example, should you have had experience using both? :)
Cheers again for the input buddy :)
I have used the round nosed VRG3 in 243. They hit hard. And VLR4 in 223, They hit hard. Fox in 7mm. Ditto. Fox bullets seem less fussy with loads. They just shoot well.

My advice, given that you are in Denmark is to use what is available locally.

I would probably avoid fragmenting bullets. Friend has been using the Geco Zero in his 7x57. Very messy on Roe and Red.
 
I have used the round nosed VRG3 in 243. They hit hard. And VLR4 in 223, They hit hard. Fox in 7mm. Ditto. Fox bullets seem less fussy with loads. They just shoot well.

My advice, given that you are in Denmark is to use what is available locally.

I would probably avoid fragmenting bullets. Friend has been using the Geco Zero in his 7x57. Very messy on Roe and Red.
Hello again Heym :)

Yeah, i was just browsing the prices and availability of the peregrines for me, and the fox bullets do seem a more viable option. And besides the price issue, it might In these days also be a better idea to minimize the amount of kilometers our goods needs to travel to us. Fox comes from Slovenia if i am not mistaken, Peregrines from South Africa. That is another factor in favor of the Fox for me.
And yeah, we share the core scepticism on fragmenting bullets.
 
I have no experience of Fox bullets, and only one of the Peregrine 7mm bullets, however the 6.5mm VLR4 work well in my .260 Borden, again using Vit140 or RL15. I was using GS Custom 95Gn in the 260 , superb bullet in my experience(.2MOA group @3150fps on paper) very effective on big Fallow bucks and of course the Does last winter; and so far I've not tried anything equal to their performance. Due to the supply chain issues with GS Custom I'm hoping to find something that will give similar attributes, I think that Yew Tree may well be my next stop, particularly as the YT bullets are manufactured in UK.
 
Hello again mate, yeah Sure, if you can Find good bullets sourced nationally and they are well priced too, then bobs your uncle, I'd say
Same reason I'd prefer going for scandinavian option if possible, but Failing that an eu one at least 👍
 
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Thanks for promting me to re-visit this cartridge. Found this:
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Hello friend , and thank you for posting that link :) - Very interesting stuff, and a simply beautiful Dorleac&Dorleac rifle build in that photo, - sleek, simple, elegant and, i bet, still quite functional. ❤️

And those "modern" 7x57 loads and velocities from a 24" barrel posted in the article, corresponds quite well with what our own @HandB, with his amazingly shooting '55 BSA, and the writer John Barsness have reported. :) 👍
This said naturally everyone should also head the words of Heym too, and pay good attention to the year of manufacture and the state of ones 7x57 action and rifle before testing out modern loads, and of course also just adhere to good safe basic reloading practice🎯 :)
 
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I shoot 140grn ttsx barnse copper in my Ruger 77Mk2 virtually no issue with stability or any desire to go heavier, these will work on any animal I shoot.
hey buddy, oh i'll believe that! - shooting an almost 100% weight retaining non lead bullet should penetration wise just around equal an old school 173 grn lead one, which was known for being an extremely effecient bullet weight for even quite large animals with the "old seven".

If anything i'd be mainly worried about it penetrating so effeciently that as a non lead bullet it might simply not meet enough resistance to open up fully, should you hit a smaller soft skinned animal in the boiler room. Has that ever been a problem for you, or do you simply take another POA ? :)
 
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