Med Cert Costs !
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HistoricBore
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I'm rural.
But I am aware of a GP on the Isle of Wight who refuses to do these...
But I am aware of a GP on the Isle of Wight who refuses to do these...
nun_hunter
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That is a nice positive way of looking at it.
I do prefer the variety other places have through the option of hunting public land that we don't have. Yes, we can in theory get permission to hunt anywhere but the reality is most people hunt the same 50-100 acres repeatedly week in, week out for the same species of deer. Assuming they're lucky enough to have unaccompanied access to hunt.
Whilst there is no definitive limit on the number of guns we can own there are plenty of realistic restrictions by justifying good reason for each of them and the type of firearms.
Is it just me, or am I being too cynical?
Stating a price " including vat" but then stating they "only accept cash" I find at best dubious and at worse, laughable.
Do you get a receipt?
We are all being had for mugs.
Mine was £90 and took the full four weeks. If it really did take 15 to 20 minutes to complete as someone suggested, then that's a nice £300 ish per hour, a tidy legal rip off.
Went via shoot cert in September 2024 and had medical certificate 4 days later for the cost of £90. The reason being that my own GP "does not engage in this process". For reference, central Cardiff (to quote VSS "I wonder how much of a difference there is between rural GPs and those in urban areas?" - lucky if they engage at all!)
Leec6.5
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Less than £1 per week over the period of the certificate so if I were you, I would quit whingeing about it. Just pay it.
In accordance with the Access to Health Records Act 1990 individuals have the right to access health records held by a healthcare provider that has treated that individual, and/or to access a summary care record (SCR) created by the individual’s GP. The Data Protection Act (DPA 1998) gives individuals the right to ask for a copy of the information an organisation holds about them; this right is commonly known as a Data Subject Access Request (DSAR). In the case of health records, a request for information has to be made with the organisation that holds the individual’s health records. The DSAR can be made via a third party such as MedCert with the individuals written permission.My GPs denied recieving the request for my records from Medcert despite the latter having sent it by recorded delivery then refused to send them the records, stating they were not being paid to do so.
In your case the GP should be reported to the GMC.
Martiniblack577
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In your case the GP should be reported to the GMC
- I doubt anyone would be held accountable after the BMA get brought in .
- I doubt anyone would be held accountable after the BMA get brought in .
nun_hunter
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Doesn't mean they shouldn't be reported though.
devon deer stalker
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It really depends on how much spare money you've got, I guess - and how tolerant you are of being soaked by the family medical adviser.
Leec6.5
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Simple you allow for it, quit drinking, smoking and going out!
How many moaners spend £50 in the pub over a weekend.
The challenge for a GP surgery doing these is that only the GPs and some relatively limited other members of staff are fee earning whilst facility and support staff costs are high. The total costs to provide a service ten years ago were estimated to run around a £250 an hour break even point per GP, so doing ten minutes of GP work for £35, plus whatever admin staff time is used on the job is never going to make any kind of business sense unless there is unused capacity being paid for that can be monetised.
If you have a set up where all a doctor does all day is certificates from a home office without the same overheads a much lower charge out rate becomes viable, so long as they can get suitably efficient access to records.
I had a long chat in the pub with a few mates about this when the system was brought in as we thought it could be a good sideline to set up, but back then we couldn't find a way to make it viable at a competitive price. BASC then set up their own system which again when we looked at it would run at a loss unless it was using time and resources that would otherwise have been paid for without raising any income.
Informative response, thank you.
It would be interesting to know where our, £90 in my case, actually go?
Do they offset the stated high overheads or simply act as a nice bonus for the practice manager.
It will almost certainly go into the general income pot for the practice from which any profits then get divided out to the partners. The practice manager will almost always be on a fixed salary answering to the partners who own the practice, and unless the manger is stealing from the petty cash they won't get the money.
I do some report work with significantly lower overheads than a GP surgery and even then after all the costs are accounted for the headline rate on the invoice is more than twice the profit left to pay tax on.
£50 is only £0.29761 per hour spread over seven days, though.
It's entirely up to you what you do with your money - and to others what they do with theirs.
For my part, I see no benefit spending a larger sum of money when spending a smaller sum will have the same result - particularly when the recipient is likely already to be making a very good living off public funds.
Therefore the staff at my surgery, who wanted £90 ('because they're worth it') ended up getting the notes ready for no fee, and sending them to someone who charged me £60.
That left me £30 to spend in the pub.
That's what goes through my mind when I, very rarely, buy Euromillions tickets.
My experience, as posted on another such thread earlier in the year:-
I got a letter from Plod informing me that I needed the medical form for my renewal on March 30th. This was the first week in December. I put the paperwork in to the surgery next day, expecting and invoice before they would do anything. Just after New year, I got an email from Plod saying they had received the medical, but because I had not yet put in my renewal application, they were sending it to me so that I could send both in together. I got an invoice for £25 from the surgery a week or so later!
Finally got it done online with a few days to spare, 8 weeks before renewal date, had to crop the photo and get the referees' details!
I had surrendered my burst .223 moderator, but they had deleted both my .223 moderators from my records because I got another email, querying why I had a ,223 moderator on my renewal application.
Mistakes do happen, it seems!
Dorset appear to have cut themselves loose for Devon & Cornwall !!
Perhaps it is worth mentioning that I handed in the form from Plod by hand, naming my doctor, so saved some admin time perhaps. The form pointed out that this was in no way a character reference for suitability to have access to firearms!
My certificates were renewed with a few days to spare before the 8 week extension ran out!
I got a letter from Plod informing me that I needed the medical form for my renewal on March 30th. This was the first week in December. I put the paperwork in to the surgery next day, expecting and invoice before they would do anything. Just after New year, I got an email from Plod saying they had received the medical, but because I had not yet put in my renewal application, they were sending it to me so that I could send both in together. I got an invoice for £25 from the surgery a week or so later!
Finally got it done online with a few days to spare, 8 weeks before renewal date, had to crop the photo and get the referees' details!
I had surrendered my burst .223 moderator, but they had deleted both my .223 moderators from my records because I got another email, querying why I had a ,223 moderator on my renewal application.
Mistakes do happen, it seems!
Dorset appear to have cut themselves loose for Devon & Cornwall !!
Perhaps it is worth mentioning that I handed in the form from Plod by hand, naming my doctor, so saved some admin time perhaps. The form pointed out that this was in no way a character reference for suitability to have access to firearms!
My certificates were renewed with a few days to spare before the 8 week extension ran out!
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