Moderators off ticket tomorrow then ..

[cjm1066]

That some FEO are not well briefed is well known.

If they try and refuse a renewal because they won't apply the law, that needs challenging.

What are you going to do if you list your moderators on your renewal and your new certificate omits them?

Read the BASC guide, simples.

 

[M@tt]

You're being a bit over dramatic.
If you're worried, just add them and get on with it....
You're going to do what you want despite what the advice you asked for says do, so do it your way.
No need to keep going on about it.

ETA: I see you did what you wanted in the end after all and despite the advice. It'll still be good, and you'll get your renewed FAC back soon, I hope, but this is BCH after all.

 

[TringSaint]

Ah ok - bit of a moot point then and lots of time wasted arguing/discussing something none of us can impact...

But too be clear - it is not social media here it is the HO circular, the Act and an organsiation representing the shooting community saying these things......not some bloke on faceache.....

I would still recommend anyone doing their renewal right now to simply list them and be safe.
Afterall if they do the opposite and end up in a wrangle then no one on here is going to help!!

 

[TringSaint]

That some FEO are not well briefed is well known.

If they try and refuse a renewal because they won't apply the law, that needs challenging.

What are you going to do if you list your moderators on your renewal and your new certificate omits them?

Read the BASC guide, simples.

Yes, I get that they might not be on my new ticket, but they are on this one and at the time of applying there was nothing to suggest what the correct procedure was so……..

 

[TringSaint]

You're being a bit over dramatic.
If you're worried, just add them and get on with it....
You're going to do what you want despite what the advice you asked for says do, so do it your way.
No need to keep going on about it.

ETA: I see you did what you wanted in the end after all and despite the advice. It'll still be good, and you'll get your renewed FAC back soon, I hope, but this is BCH after all.

BCH??

 

[Klenchblaize]

How do you sell a moderator that is chambering-specific (6MM PPC not generic 243/6MM), has a serial number and has been Proof Marked based on the rifle it was submitted with for test?

K

 

[20-250]

Yes, I get that they might not be on my new ticket, but they are on this one and at the time of applying there was nothing to suggest what the correct procedure was so……..

You recommend that people list things which aren't firearms on a firearm certificate renewal application? Get real.
I can't see the box to declare my truck, knives, hammers, screwdrivers or boots in. They're all as relevant to a renewal as your moderators...

 

[20-250]

How do you sell a moderator that is chambering-specific (6MM PPC not generic 243/6MM), has a serial number and has been Proof Marked based on the rifle it was submitted with for test?

K

Same way as you sell any other moderator.

 

[M@tt]

BCH??

BCH is your Police Licensing Area if you live in Tring.

Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Hertfordshire.

 

[M@tt]

How do you sell a moderator that is chambering-specific (6MM PPC not generic 243/6MM), has a serial number and has been Proof Marked based on the rifle it was submitted with for test?

K

Klenchblaize: Do you want this mod?
Buyer: Yes, please.

Job done.

 

[Dalua]

any help that it will not bite you on the bum, they are no longer regarded as firearms, simple as that View attachment 482197

The only bit here which seems debateable is the 5th bullet-point.
It seems to me that the only moderators which may be possessed lawfully only by an FAC-holder are those which are attached to an S1 firearm.
As this document is about unattached moderators only, I don't think anyone needs to hold an FAC to possess them lawfully. The 'buyer' here needs to hold an FAC to possess the moderator once he attaches the moderator to a S1 firearm i.e. he turns the moderator into 'an accessory to' a S1 firearm, making that moderator while it is on the S1 firearm a 'relevant accessory'. Once he takes it off the S1 firearm, it turns back into a saggy old cloth cat, a little loose at the seams, which is not subject to any kind of restrictions at all.

To me, it appears that this change has clarified the previous position that moderators of any kind unattached to S1 firearms are not subject to FAC control, and has removed the need for the workaround which was introduced to try to make sense of this, whereby a moderator attached to an S1 firearm needed to occupy a 'slot' while it was attached to that firearm.

Any other understanding still seems to leave owners of airgun moderators at risk of being accused of unlawful possession of something-or-other.

 

[Dalua]

How do you sell a moderator that is chambering-specific (6MM PPC not generic 243/6MM), has a serial number and has been Proof Marked based on the rifle it was submitted with for test?

K

I'd say just make sure you remember to take it off the rifle before handing it to its new owner