monolithic on roe any experience ?
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paulux
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That has been exactly my experience on roe with an 80 gr Sako Powerhead 2 bullet(.243 ttsx). Shot at 70 m, it entered the rib cage between 2 ribs and penciled through the lungs. The buck ran 140 m leaving very little blood to follow, luckily most of that run was through an orchard but the last few meters were in thick bracken, and it took me 2 hours to find the dead buck.
From what I've read on this forum though, ttsx bullets seem to work well on roe in calibers from 6.5mm and above.
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murph3010
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that's got me worried now they shoot great through my rifle
murph3010
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I take it you stopped using them then
paulux
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Yep, it was actually my first experience, and last one, with this bullet on roe. Didn't want to risk that again.
Slippery bullets with high BC, Boat tail, Small Meplat and short, narrow central void....
Constructed from a solid material that is harder than lead...
Can't imagine why they won't expand reliably at the relatively lower terminal velocities associated with longer range....
Choose bullets that work on the intended target (quarry) not just ones that shoot well on paper.
Effective Monolithic Bullets designed for game Game have:
Larger Hollow points
Large central voids, often of variable or multiple diameter
Shorter profile flat base
High BCs and boat tails are wasted features on a hunting bullets for 99.9% of shots taken
Constructed from a solid material that is harder than lead...
Can't imagine why they won't expand reliably at the relatively lower terminal velocities associated with longer range....
Choose bullets that work on the intended target (quarry) not just ones that shoot well on paper.
Effective Monolithic Bullets designed for game Game have:
Larger Hollow points
Large central voids, often of variable or multiple diameter
Shorter profile flat base
High BCs and boat tails are wasted features on a hunting bullets for 99.9% of shots taken
stevenedwards
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Could you make some recommendations by any chance. ?
Ive shot two bucks now with Ed's 100gr 6.5mm projectiles. one at 78 yards and one at 204 yards and was perfectly happy with the results. One BF and one made about 10 yards with low levels of damage beyond the bullet path.
Lots!!
There are more and more brands coming onto the market that allow us to make decisions based on best performance rather than what we can get hold of.
Its hard to watch threads unfold where a material is questioned rather than design and type.
Can you imagine if someone came on here and asked:
"What's the best Lead bullets for Boar"
to be told they are all shite and don't work....
or
"I shot this red deer at 300yds and the bullet passed straight through and the deer ran for 2 miles....."
"must have been the material it was made from......"
There are more and more brands coming onto the market that allow us to make decisions based on best performance rather than what we can get hold of.
Its hard to watch threads unfold where a material is questioned rather than design and type.
Can you imagine if someone came on here and asked:
"What's the best Lead bullets for Boar"
to be told they are all shite and don't work....
or
"I shot this red deer at 300yds and the bullet passed straight through and the deer ran for 2 miles....."
"must have been the material it was made from......"
mereside
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you can get bullets designed that are copper to expand at lower velocities and I do use these for my 30-30 and work exceptionally well, people have a bad experience and slate things without understanding the why's and wherefores.
we do demos at seminars on a range of different bullets from solid copper to ballistic tips you can get failures in any bullet and often do usually there is a reason behind the failure but with copper you do need to down size and have a faster speed, that is until fox came along and would happily recommend those in any situation
we do demos at seminars on a range of different bullets from solid copper to ballistic tips you can get failures in any bullet and often do usually there is a reason behind the failure but with copper you do need to down size and have a faster speed, that is until fox came along and would happily recommend those in any situation
murph3010
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This is why i have asked the question about performance on roe really. The fact they shoot well is a bonus if they work as intended but hard to find info on them in 243. i have found American sites saying they are great in 243 80gr and have even seen them in use mule deer or whitetail i cant remember. Recations seem the same as most deer some run some drop. i think it will be a case of trying them out. The one thing i do know for sure i like shooting them and feel more confident with the accuracy which can only be a good thing. Im so brand new to the sport really so any advice is welcome.
stevenedwards
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Try the Fox 80gr. from Ed. My .243 prints groups just as good as TTSX 80's and based on only a couple of animals they seem to work as well as a conventional spbt.
murph3010
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I have used .223 Hornaday Superformance 55gr on Roe, this uses a 55gr GMX (hollow point in this calibre) travelling at a measured 3050ft/s. Both Does taken at about 80 yards, decent expansion and wound channel on chest (heart) shots. Both travelled approx 10-20 meters before expiring. Loading Barnes TTSX 55gr (Viht N133) to try next, will be interested to see how they perform in comparison.
stevenedwards
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Edinburgh rifles ed@ersg.com
I tried 308 TSX's in 130 and 150 grain and hated them. The meat damage on munties was unacceptable and they still ran on! I have pulled the rest and loaded up 5 batches of Fox 150 grain cartridges which I will test fire next time I get on the ranges. I have high hopes that these will be the answer.
stevenedwards
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Purely for the benefit of this thread I am going to carry out more research in the field today with my Fox 100gr rounds.
murph3010
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Interesting I think it's funny how many rate them in the states but I think I will give them a go. I di like the idea of non toxic and as I've found them so accurate so far its improved my confidence of sticks a bit more
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