New Forest Poacher Convictions

[jimmer.13]

I don't think advocating killing people does our online hunting community much good, if I may say so. Besides, lots of people think we're scum too.

Yes yes, I know, pinko woke snowflake etc etc.

Not a snowflake chap but disappointed that you think that the shooting community should not express a political or social opinion.

Many people from all walks of life think that the death penalty is appropriate in certain cases why just because we own firearms should we abstain from judicial and political reform. Are we not allowed an opinion or any say it what we would like to see going forward in our country?

Does having strong views on difficult topics make us a danger and threat to society?

Perhaps it was/is members of the shooting community that are afraid to call out the child sex grooming gangs for who they are and where they come from?

What are we supposed to be afraid of?

 

[artschool]

America has undoubtedly one of the harshest prison systems with long term sentences (for a 1st world country) and yet their reoffending rate is one of the highest. Looks at the Scandinavian countries with some of the "nicest" prisons and much shorter sentences yet the reoffending rate is much much lower.

People are often blinded by anger and want to see the offender punished (which they are by having their freedom and liberty removed) but also treated like an animal and yet don't realise the long term result of treating people like animals and then act surprised when they come out of prison and act worse than when they went in.

I see what you are saying but it's like comparing apples with oranges.

 

[Pine Marten]

Oh I'm far from afraid of strong political views. However, I'm IN the shooting community, and I absolutely do no hold this view and don't wish to seem associated to it by default. And I'm far from alone

 

[Ratel]

Yes yes, I know, pinko woke snowflake etc etc.

Well fancy that, you saying that about yourself. I never would have thought it.

 

[Pine Marten]

Well fancy that, you saying that about yourself. I never would have thought it.

Thought I may as well pre-empt it. Avoids aggravating and time consuming tirades of barely disguised abuse.

 

[tozzybum]

You are a man of principle Laurence and you've always stuck by those and fair play to you

 

[twelsh]

Not every msn or lady are scum because they own a lurcher are they

 

[BenBhoy]

I’ll let you all guess which community they belong to

No doubt there are some people who will be calling them "members of the hunting community". Now we, as hunters, know that isn't true... Not nice being tarred with same brush is it, chap?

 

[VSS]

No doubt there are some people who will be calling them "members of the hunting community". Now we, as hunters, know that isn't true... Not nice being tarred with same brush is it, chap?

With respect, Ben, we don't know that isn't true. Could've been a Master of Foxhounds and his mates having a bit of off-duty fun, for all we know. The article doesn't give any indication of what "community" the miscreants belong to.

 

[Morkai]

Take each person as they come but pretending there isn't a link between cultures and behaviours in certain social groups is quite foolish.

I think there is a fine line between not being judgmental and being niave.

These pair, no matter their cultural background are despicable.

 

[Morkai]

If you look them up online you can see that @jimmer.13 was correct.

 

[VSS]

Take each person as they come but pretending there isn't a link between cultures and behaviours in certain social groups is quite foolish.

I think there is a fine line between not being judgmental and being niave.

These pair, no matter their cultural background are despicable.

No-one is pretending that that link doesn't exist. But nothing in the article placed those individuals in any particular group. You know as well as I do that there are despicable people in all walks of life.
When a member of "the travelling community" commits such a despicable act we condemn the whole group, but when a gamekeeper or some other person associsted with our own hunting interests does such a thing we expect everyone to uphold the rest of the group.
Can you not see the problem there?

 

[BenBhoy]

 

[Mike L]

Turn thy cheek brothers

 

[levigsp]

Must be something in the new forest water! Man, 25, caught having sex with calf after suspicious farmer plants camera

 

[Morkai]

No-one is pretending that that link doesn't exist. But nothing in the article placed those individuals in any particular group.

It would seem that Jimmer already knew about the event and who done it as they were from the local area.

You know as well as I do that there are despicable people in all walks of life.
When a member of "the travelling community" commits such a despicable act we condemn the whole group, but when a gamekeeper or some other person associsted with our own hunting interests does such a thing we expect everyone to uphold the rest of the group.
Can you not see the problem there?

I can see the problem there.

Ignore my other edits if you read them, your are correct.

 

[shakey jake]

a level of accepted racism!!!

 

[Morkai]

a level of accepted racism!!!

Yes, it is, thats one of the things I edited out amongst other things before agreeing with VSS.

 

[old 30-06]

These are horrific crimes, and I am sure they have committed many more acts of poaching that we do not know about. I hope their time in prison changes their behaviour.

 

[jimmer.13]

No doubt there are some people who will be calling them "members of the hunting community". Now we, as hunters, know that isn't true... Not nice being tarred with same brush is it, chap?

Take how you personally see it fella.
The majority see it how it really is