Passing on gun collection .

[bongo]

Hi im not in the best of health , so im trying to prepare for the inevitable . My son is interested in keeping my collection and taking up shooting himself , In short family etc has not made this an option for him before . I think my guns are best kept at my home as my son has kids and would it save moving 5 cabinets lol , not really a deciding factor but i want them here until the end . my wife is not into shooting , so little point in her getting an FAC .
what is the best way to do this , can he co-own them now and then take full ownership . Not sure what its called ? , if anyone can guide me as to what the correct way to go , it would be really helpful . thanks gerry

 

[VSS]

Shared possession may be the way to go for now.

 

[saddler]

May also be worth penning something in writing to this effect, to your solicitor or whoever will be acting in your interests with power of attorney (financial/assets).
You could also use this option to make sure a spare set of keys is lodged under such control...either until they can be released under some shared possession option, or as part of a Temp. Section 7 Permit, etc.

 

[Jon P]

I can’t see a problem with co ownership, before I had my own pistol for humane dispatch, I used to have the hunt pistol on my ticket for when I did the terrier work for them.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

You can share guns and your existing cabinets. I will be doing so as soon as my lad gets his certificates sorted.
Your lad will need good reason for each of the firearms. But aside from that unless there’s a reason he can’t possess then it shouldn’t be a problem. It might even work in your favour in so far as to prevent seizure (if firearms licencing became concerned with your health) having him have joint possession.
I would also recommend having a will and power of attorney’s set up. For your financial and medical decisions. It is better done and not required than the other way round.

 

[Stalker62]

A family member has a "mirror" of my FAC/SGC.

He is in another Force Area and all firearms are at my home. It can be done with a little foresight.

Well done, on planning ahead. I hope it will not be needed for many years.

 

[baguio]

I can see an obvious problem. Can your son justify owning some of the guns (assuming they're not all shotguns)? Do you need to be a member of a gun club to own them or does he have land cleared for their use?

 

[jcampbellsmith]

I had 'mirror' certificates with my father for many years. The issue that I had was the need for 'mirror' variations too.
Regards
JCS

 

[opticron1]

Interesting issue and hopefully there will be a decent length of time before the question becomes a reality!
I was in a similar position with my late Dad's shotguns, Mrs O isn't keen on me having firearms in the house so it was going to be one of my brothers who was going to get the relevant SGC and inherit said guns. This process would naturally be completed before the day of departure so a smooth transition could take place. Also make sure all of this is noted in the Will for probate purposes and have a current valuation of the guns/rifles. As my brother is working out of the country and is err.... a bit sluggish in getting his SGC sorted out, we decided that a local firearms dealer would kindly come and collect the guns, they are now in secure storage and a monthly fee is paid until a final decision is made as to their destination.

 

[Stalker62]

I had 'mirror' certificates with my father for many years. The issue that I had was the need for 'mirror' variations too.

This is true.

I am currently awaiting a couple, when they land, I can go out and purchase these rifles.

The plan is that they will live in a separate cabinet (one the family member does not have access to) until such time as my family member has their FAC/SGC renewed, at which point they will apply for those variations be added to their certificate.

Incidentally, I have also put a "ticket" on each firearm with the details of the firearm, the date it was purchased and the "actual" price I paid for each one - not the price I told MrsS62...

 

[Dunwaters]

I can see an obvious problem. Can your son justify owning some of the guns (assuming they're not all shotguns)? Do you need to be a member of a gun club to own them or does he have land cleared for their use?

I dont know about limits to your ” good reason to acquire” but here “sentimental reasons” are a good enough reason if you inherit or are gifted the firearm.

 

[Stalker62]

I dont know about limits to your ” good reason to acquire” but here “sentimental reasons” are a good enough reason if you inherit or are gifted the firearm.

If that is true, then what a 'grown-up approach".

 

[Apthorpe]

This is true.

I am currently awaiting a couple, when they land, I can go out and purchase these rifles.

The plan is that they will live in a separate cabinet (one the family member does not have access to) until such time as my family member has their FAC/SGC renewed, at which point they will apply for those variations be added to their certificate.

Incidentally, I have also put a "ticket" on each firearm with the details of the firearm, the date it was purchased and the "actual" price I paid for each one - not the price I told MrsS62...


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What is the gun third from the left, front row?

I'm glad to see you've had the sense to arrange the "tickets" facing backwards so they can't be read. I keep the wife out of the gun-room/ attic, by making sure it is freezing and full of batsh1t.

 

[Stalker62]

What is the gun third from the left, front row?

.310 Cadet Rifle.

 

[Stalker62]

It was sent out to Australia for their Cadet Force. You can just (I hope) make out a Kangaroo stamped on the breech.

Made in the UK.
Sent to Australia.
Found in an arms sale in the USA.
Brought back to the UK.

Damn thing has done more travelling than I have.

 

[Apthorpe]

.310 Cadet Rifle.


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Thank you. Nice bit of kit!

 

[Phil fox man]

I hope when I go to the happy hunting ground my wife does not sell my kit for what I told her I paid for it the only downside of wife receipts from the gun shop hope you stay well!

 

[Sonicdmb73]

I hope when I go to the happy hunting ground my wife does not sell my kit for what I told her I paid for it the only downside of wife receipts from the gun shop hope you stay well!

You’re missing a trick. I don’t actually answer the question. How much was that rifle? I simply ask my own question. How much was that handbag (some were more expensive than my guns). Same if I get you’ve got too many guns. Just deflect the question, it’s not lying then

 

[25 Sharps]

I dont know about limits to your ” good reason to acquire” but here “sentimental reasons” are a good enough reason if you inherit or are gifted the firearm.

Really? Where is that covered in the guidance?

 

[Dunwaters]

Really? Where is that covered in the guidance?

Its listed in the guidance on what constitutes a “ good reason” to acquire a firearm on the Garda website.