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Watch the video before you go signing this ! The owner plainly encourages the first dog to attack , at which time is was shot and there was very clear footage of them backing off and the fella moving aggressively forwards at the cops pushing the first dog at the coppers !
not the worlds biggest fan of the current crop of coppers and their tactics tbf but only the guy who weaponised his dog / dogs is to blame here ! First thing i might have done is try get the dogs tied up / secured with the promise of good behaviour.
DONT SIGN UNTIL you watch the video
 
Lancaster said:
Nobody in their right mind would say that the Met is a shining example of Policing, but a huge amount of resource is being utilised to investigate and remove officers who have engaged in criminality, acted not in a manner befitting someone in public service, or who do not meet the standards expected of them.
However, I do not make sweeping generalisations that tars all officers with the same brush, and I suspect that the majority of serving Met officers are sickened to the pits of their stomachs by the results of recent prosecutions and enquiries.

To be specific about this case; a firearm and a taser were discharged during the arrest of this person, and a speedy, rigorous and unbiased review took place.
I would expect that this will have involved statements, body cam footage, radio comms etc.
The enquiry found that the officers had acted appropriately when dealing with the situation.

I repeat that had the investigation not taken place you would be complaining, it did take place and you are still complaining.

No matter what the Police do, it will never be right in your eyes.
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Obviously you have trouble reading as I have not said I disagree with the police action or the enquiry afterwards. What I said was it is a shame they do not react as quickly to other things that happen such as burglary and car crime, vandalism and many other things. I agree that there are many good hardworking coppers out there, many of them are friends of mine and they all say themselves that they will never get back the public confidence until they stop being forced to ignore certain types of crime, weed out the lazy and corrupt and get decent leadership that want to fight crime not play at being a politician. Many things the police do is right in my eyes, but also a lot of it is wrong and corrupt.
Contrary to your opinion I do not dislike all the police, just the corrupt and lazy ones.
 
TH4 said:
Obviously you have trouble reading as I have not said I disagree with the police action or the enquiry afterwards. What I said was it is a shame they do not react as quickly to other things that happen such as burglary and car crime, vandalism and many other things. I agree that there are many good hardworking coppers out there, many of them are friends of mine and they all say themselves that they will never get back the public confidence until they stop being forced to ignore certain types of crime, weed out the lazy and corrupt and get decent leadership that want to fight crime not play at being a politician. Many things the police do is right in my eyes, but also a lot of it is wrong and corrupt.
Contrary to your opinion I do not dislike all the police, just the corrupt and lazy ones.
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If you don't dislike the Police you certainly aren't above having a dig at them given half a chance, and as for inferring that this is a Police state.....

TH4 said:
That is what happens when you arm the police. If your only tool is a hammer then all your problems become nails.
Makes a change from shooting unarmed members of the public I suppose
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TH4 said:
If the met directorate have carried out a full investigation into the circumstances already then its a shame the rest of the Met don't investigate other crimes that quickly
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TH4 said:
Same old voices. Don't care what members of your gang do it's all ok because they are police. Bet you made excuses about the findings of the enquiry into the Met. Not exactly glowing was it? But I bet it was all lies according to you. I have my opinion and you have yours, that is allowed in this police state I think. You sound like a very angry person, hope you were not like that when you were in the job.
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Told you I am fine with good cops but not bad ones or retired ones that don't want to see other than through their rose tinted glasses. No matter how many times you post your biased views you will not convince me that all the police are wonderful and there are just the odd bad ones. You won't even convince my friends that are police officers.
We will never agree so let's just agree to disagree and press the ignore button
 
TH4 said:
Told you I am fine with good cops but not bad ones or retired ones that don't want to see other than through their rose tinted glasses. No matter how many times you post your biased views you will not convince me that all the police are wonderful and there are just the odd bad ones. You won't even convince my friends that are police officers.
We will never agree so let's just agree to disagree and press the ignore button
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I've not posted any biased views, I initially stated that, on this occasion, it is my opinion that the Police made the right call.
I have never stated that all the Police are wonderful, and I certainly don't have a pair of Rose tinted specs.
Ignore me if you wish, but be careful carrying that chip on your shoulder, it could cause all manner of posture problems in years to come.:-|
 
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i have always had faith in the police, until now. my car got hit by a tractor and trailor while parked. cctv caught it, i found the guy, he admitted it whilst i recorded but refuse to give me his insurance details. reported to cambs police, cant talk to a person and ten day in no contact from them.
what an absolute shower of shxx. complete waste of tax payers money
 
shakey jake said:
i have always had faith in the police, until now. my car got hit by a tractor and trailor while parked. cctv caught it, i found the guy, he admitted it whilst i recorded but refuse to give me his insurance details. reported to cambs police, cant talk to a person and ten day in no contact from them.
what an absolute shower of shxx. complete waste of tax payers money
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Would your insurance company not help you there? Ultimately I guess that you'll claim through them.
 
boltgun said:
Encountered a bull cross lurcher which would turn a fox inside out for jollies trouble was hard to switch off, been on the wrong end of a so called staffy bull nasty thing and came to a bad end, but yes they do get bad press and Some not deserved.
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The "out" command is way the hardest bit to teach well
 
Only “ out” command I use when training gundogs and more so labs is “go back” to handle a dog in conjunction with whistle and hand signals onto a blind retrieve or “ get out or on” as permission to retrieve to the fall, spaniels simply get on when casting from heel to hunt, flush and retrieve.
Never had any difficulty quite the reverse as just there natural instincts but on my wish not theirs.
 
Just looked at the videos and I must admit that on the face of it, it doesn't look good for the cops.
But then again we don't have the full circumstances, so I won't be signing it.
If the owner was a bit more compliant, the whole thing could have been avoided.
 
I am pretty impressed with the officers shooting. 2 shots under pressure in a city environment with other humans in close vicinity and the added stress of clowns shouting from the balcony, both shots accurate and did the job. Hope his boss treated him to a freddo from the polis tuck shop.
 
Won’t sign, a pensioner was killed yesterday by a banned dog breed, this should focus people’s minds on what these dogs are capable of doing.
 
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