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Well I just had lunch with an Indian, a Greek, a Taiwanese person and a South African. From my desk I see an Italian, a Rumanian, an Irish person, a couple of French people in addition to myself, a Hungarian, a Pole, and some Brits, and mixtures of all of the above like myself. And they're all no better or worse than anyone else, and get along just fine.
 
geordieh said:
Don't you get it the more houses we build the more stalking ground we lose.
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Of course I do, I live in London which is in the throes of an appalling housing crisis, which doesn't need to be this bad. Likewise the pressure on public services: it's not actually a surprise to anyone that there are more people who need more services. It's just that the political will to plan and act accordingly hasn't and still isn't here. I see huge developments of insanely expensive flats going up in and around my area, with not one single additional school, not a nursery, not a hospital, in fact they're closing them. Our A&E department is the couple of Palestinian doctors who live next door and we're extremely grateful to them for it. They came here as refugees initially. It's not difficult to sort out. When giving planning permission for a massive housing development, insist that the developers finance the services that support the additional population. It's to a large extent a planning problem, it's not the fault of the population.

But I'd also say that there is a hierarchy of needs and that housing people probably trumps stalking. Much as that would annoy me. If I had any stalking to lose.
 
We have the densest population in Europe apart from Malt and Belgium perhaps France as one of the leading EU nations should take immigrants until they have 246 people per sq km but we are full now.
 
Pine Marten said:
Of course I do, I live in London which is in the throes of an appalling housing crisis, which doesn't need to be this bad. Likewise the pressure on public services: it's not actually a surprise to anyone that there are more people who need more services. It's just that the political will to plan and act accordingly hasn't and still isn't here. I see huge developments of insanely expensive flats going up in and around my area, with not one single additional school, not a nursery, not a hospital, in fact they're closing them. Our A&E department is the couple of Palestinian doctors who live next door and we're extremely grateful to them for it. They came here as refugees initially. It's not difficult to sort out. When giving planning permission for a massive housing development, insist that the developers finance the services that support the additional population. It's to a large extent a planning problem, it's not the fault of the population.

But I'd also say that there is a hierarchy of needs and that housing people probably trumps stalking. Much as that would annoy me. If I had any stalking to lose.
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I used to have a very large disused army camp near me (Saighton), it was a fox factory!.. then the people who speculate the housing market poked their noses in, 800 houses & 30 light industrial use were proposed, local council said OK!, but you must put a road in & a road out, (to the main A55), today we are nearly at full build ... & no relief road, no chemist, no school, no garage / petrol station
 
finnbear270 said:
I used to have a very large disused army camp near me (Saighton), it was a fox factory!.. then the people who speculate the housing market poked their noses in, 800 houses & 30 light industrial use were proposed, local council said OK!, but you must put a road in & a road out, (to the main A55), today we are nearly at full build ... & no relief road, no chemist, no school, no garage / petrol station
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As I said, It's already happening.....
 
Pine Marten said:
Well I just had lunch with an Indian, a Greek, a Taiwanese person and a South African. From my desk I see an Italian, a Rumanian, an Irish person, a couple of French people in addition to myself, a Hungarian, a Pole, and some Brits, and mixtures of all of the above like myself. And they're all no better or worse than anyone else, and get along just fine.
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All of those people come from reasonably civilised countries PM. I hope that one day you don't find yourself confronted by some gutter rats out of Syria or Iraq who will care not one little bit about slitting your throat down an alley to get your wallet off you.

I don't doubt that a good percentage of the immigrants are half decent people, but mark my words, a lot of them aren't. ISIS themselves have openly stated that they have members in amongst them.

Unfortunately, you just don't get a chance to see them for their true nature whilst flicking through the Times at lunch in such cosmopolitan surroundings. :(
 
Geordieh and digger, I think it's pretty unlikely that our discussion will change any of our minds. It just comes down to the sort of world you wan to live in. I've been down this path before and it just leads to bad places. So I'm dropping this until such a time that I see something that I just can't leave alone...
 
An agricultural company I do a bit of contracting for have spent £10,000 so far to keep up with what the EU says.

There biggest concern is they might have to type approve their cultivators which they have been making for 40 years!!

If they have to do that it will break the firm...FFSAKE.............OUT


Tim.243
 
It's a fact, no one, - not politicians (especially politicians), bankers, American Presidents....No one at all has the slightest clue of what an exit from the EU will bring.
So, shall we stay in because we're scared of a challenge?
Or shall we support this Great British Nation in a new venture outside the expensive beaurocratic world of $h1t politicians created & dragged us into.
If you have balls, vote out, take up the challenge and live freely again.
 
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Vote out and give one of the worst Tory governments total control and allow wee Jimmy Krankie another crack at the title?
 
Pine Marten said:
We're not deer. We're people. And those poor devils in the Jungle in Calais aren't trying to come here for the stalking.
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Your beginning to sound like my sister, and she's not a got a clue about what is right for this country either.
As for those poor devils, why don't they just go back where they came from. They like us have the country they
deserve, for good or bad. It's bad enough that all the muslims and others who come here from their own war/terror
torn or poverty stricken homes and immediately try to carry on here as they did at home, withe extra bonus of benefits
and the NHS

THIS COUNTRY IS OVER FULL, AND HAS BEEN FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.

Neil. :)
 
Postal vote arrived an hour ago, I marked it LEAVE and am just back from posting it.
Roll on 24th then either way we can all move forward
 
Hornet 6 said:
Your beginning to sound like my sister, and she's not a got a clue about what is right for this country either.
As for those poor devils, why don't they just go back where they came from. They like us have the country they
deserve, for good or bad. It's bad enough that all the muslims and others who come here from their own war/terror
torn or poverty stricken homes and immediately try to carry on here as they did at home, withe extra bonus of benefits
and the NHS

THIS COUNTRY IS OVER FULL, AND HAS BEEN FOR 30 PLUS YEARS.

Neil. :)
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