Powder .222 and .308

Old melv

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Hi all
do you have any suggestions on powder suitable for .222 fifty grain bullet and .308 150 grain bullet?
I would like to load both with the same powder if possible.
​thanks
 
Not an ideal combo

for VV you could go up to N133 which is a bit snappy for 308 (n140 would work there)
not sure about running a .222 on varget which the 308 would swallow

​better getting two
 
I think you'll prob struggle mate . . Try H322 in the .222
which is well tried and tested and will let the cartridge reach its optimum with
a 50 grain bullet ... I have known of Varget being used in the deuce but it's far from
ideal... . I think you might need to bite the bullet and load specify powders to
each cartridge to get the best from them.
 
I have tried with the 243 and 308 but struggle a bit but vit150 for the 308 works great at 44grn 150 grain bullet
 
If Vihtavuori powders continue to be available, N133, N135, N140 should be OK as already implied. The choice would depend on your needs (what you want from each cartridge and which one is more important).
 
According to the Hogdons 2001 booklet :-

50gr Hornady SP bullet with 23.8gr of H4895. [compressed.]
Or 25gr of Varget [comp.]

150gr Nos.BT bullet with of 45.5gr of H4895.
Or 47gr of Varget. [comp.]

HWH.
 
I've had the same idea looking for one powder for my .222, .243 and .308. Practically Varget will do it very well in the two larger calibres but muzzle velocity from 25 grains in my 20" barrelled .222 and 50 gr Hornady SP at 2,860 fps is too slow to give sufficient muzzle energy to be small deer legal in the UK. Accuracy with 25 grains of Varget in my .222 is good and I found it just deer legal with the 50 grain GMX and 55 grain SP but IMR 4198 is my chosen powder for this calibre..

Brian
 
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I've had the same idea looking for one powder for my .222, .243 and .308. Practically Varget will do it very well in the two larger calibres but muzzle velocity from 25 grains in my 20" barrelled .222 and 50 gr Hornady SP at 2,860 fps is too slow to give sufficient muzzle energy to be small deer legal in the UK. Accuracy with 25 grains of Varget in my .222 is good and I found it just deer legal with the 50 grain GMX and 55 grain SP but IMR 4198 is my chosen powder for this calibre..

Brian

Why use the .222 on small deer when you have more suitable calibres ?
Use the .222 on vermin only.
HWH.
 
The .222 properly loaded is a beauty of a cartridge on roe... I prefer it to the
25-06 which I have subsequently sold.

I'm not saying it's more suitable than something a bit meatier, but certainly
shouldn't be underestimated
 
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BL-C(2)

I use it in light load in my 30-06 and in my .223. It was originally designed for 308 (I believe) and hodgdon list loads for .222 on their website.

Mike
 
Why use the .222 on small deer when you have more suitable calibres ?
Use the .222 on vermin only.
HWH.

.222 with a good quality bullet is a perfect roe cartridge.

Q: "why use a .243 on red deer when you have more suitable calibres/cartridges?"
A: Because you can and people do to good effect
 
Hodgden BLC 2 will do both calibres and if your willing to drop to a 125 NBT in your 308 Viht N130 will work and is magic in a 222.

I know its off topic but have you tried Hornady 55 grain SPWC (#2266) in your 222 they are very accurate in mine loaded to the cannalure (without crimping) and drop roe very well.

Rick
 
.222 with a good quality bullet is a perfect roe cartridge.

Q: "why use a .243 on red deer when you have more suitable calibres/cartridges?"
A: Because you can and people do to good effect

The late Robert Ruark [no doubt well known to Muir] had an excellent saying `USE ENOUGH GUN`.
Having seen the general standard of marksmanship over many years at a basic 100yds or so under good weather conditions and off a good rest at stalkers shoots, believe me, many need all the help they can get including a larger hole and greater striking energy.
HWH.
 
The late Robert Ruark [no doubt well known to Muir] had an excellent saying `USE ENOUGH GUN`.
Having seen the general standard of marksmanship over many years at a basic 100yds or so under good weather conditions and off a good rest at stalkers shoots, believe me, many need all the help they can get including a larger hole and greater striking energy.
HWH.

well the .222 is more than enough gun for small deer. perfect round for the job. a 55grn soft point knocks em over everytime.

Paul
 
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