Quad sticks

No mention of seeland sticks.
Does nobody possess a set?
Are they compare able with the viper at a lesser cost?
Or are they a crap alternative?
 
I bought a pair of seeland, really liked them to start with. Then the bottom leg clamps came loose whist I was out foot lamping, in the dark I didn't see the adjustable legs fall out, so they have been stored for the time being. Ive now made a set of standing and kneeling quads from hazel and bike inner tube for the grand sum of about half an hour of my time. difference in performance between them and the £85 seeland? not a lot, true you can't nudge aim left or right a bit (not that theres a huge amount of travel before you have to reposition) havnt found that an issue really either rabbiting or stalking tbh. If you want to spend the money, its worth wrapping tape around those bottom legs!
 
I've been wondering about the same sort of things. I like the Seeland option, but wonder if they'll be tall enough.
I'm 6'2 or 188cm (your choice) and see the Seeland extend to 175cm. I've heard that for quad sticks to work well you have to stand up pretty straight, not bent over inducing instability.
Any tall Seeland users able to offer any advice?
LJ
 
I've been wondering about the same sort of things. I like the Seeland option, but wonder if they'll be tall enough.
I'm 6'2 or 188cm (your choice) and see the Seeland extend to 175cm. I've heard that for quad sticks to work well you have to stand up pretty straight, not bent over inducing instability.
Any tall Seeland users able to offer any advice?
LJ

The Limulus ones are built to your size & right/left-handedness & are very good indeed. Certainly just right for my 6'2" frame.

All the different makes will hold your rifle very steady but remember that you're going to be carrying them & using them as a walking aid for steadying yourself & pushing foliage out of the way for about 99% of the time so I'd be looking for something that's easy to carry & that is quiet (both to open & if it touches a branch/stone etc), hence my preference for the wooden ones.

I do prefer a 'v-grip' to really lock the rifle in to help manage the recoil/flip of my unmoderated rifle as opposed to the trend of having a flat at the front, allowing lateral movement of the rifle. With the Limulus sticks if I find myself in a tight corner with no option to further re-position the sticks then I can place my hand in the 'V' to permit lateral movement of a few degrees.
 
Thanks all. My concern is being able to achieve this position:
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Rather than this:
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where sight picture/alignment is forced and unnatural (to me). The 'hunch' also compromises stability as the shooter becomes another hinge, leading to up-down movement during the shot.

Probably now now just a case of 'try before your buy'. Thanks for the advice ntl.

LJ
 
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Thanks all. My concern is being able to achieve this position:
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Rather than this:
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where sight picture/alignment is compromised. The 'hunch' also compromises stability as the shooter becomes another hinge, leading to up-down movement during the shot.

Probably now now just a case of 'try before your buy'. Thanks for the advise ntl.

LJ

From all the commercial made sticks I have seen and tried they only open out so much against their moulded or machined joint.
That is fine but many times I have needed to open my h/m sticks to make the shot with one set of the legs on the head land with the other in the plough wheeling.

You will struggle to try a set in a shop as it takes time to develop a smooth technique from shoulder to sticks....

Making a set to your height and style is a cheap way to work out what you need and develop your muscle memory.

Tim.243
 
I have three sets of sticks. All have their pluses and minuses.

View attachment 89334 Corinium quad sticks (my preferred choice)

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View attachment 89336 John Robson (YDS) sticks

I have tried the Viper sticks but found them clunky, noisy (whistling noise when windy) and not as strong as the wooden ones I have however they were well made.

Willie

Those Corinium ones look good. Am I right in saying they are a fixed height though?
 
Those Corinium ones look good. Am I right in saying they are a fixed height though?

The Corinium Cradle sticks are not adjustable however I think you might be able to purchase different lengths to suit your stature as they are all hand made.
Willie
 
The Corinium Cradle sticks are not adjustable however I think you might be able to purchase different lengths to suit your stature as they are all hand made.
Willie
Ah ok, thanks. Are they about the same price as the Viperflex?
 
In my opinion the Corinium sticks, while a lovely piece of craftsmanship in real wood (and so far more pleasant to handle, natural sounding when bumped and not requiring tape to stop them whistling), do not have as good a back rest and it can more easily get in the way of accessing the trigger. I have only used them a couple of times in practise though.

I have, however, been told by a good authority who is very well placed to know all about them that they have been somewhat surpassed in overall functionality and convenience by the machine made ones these days.
 
Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses. I am now considering the merits of a trigger stick tripod instead of the quad sticks. I came across these on eBay and wonder if anyone has experience of them, they are not Primos.

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Thanks to everyone for the helpful responses. I am now considering the merits of a trigger stick tripod instead of the quad sticks. I came across these on eBay and wonder if anyone has experience of them, they are not Primos.

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All I ever hear is how after getting wet/dirty the legs either don’t come down or slip when they do, so I got rid of mine and bought some Viper Elite Quad sticks, they do need practice to deploy them quickly and quietly but when the rifle is in there is no more stable support than these and they can be deployed as a bipod if wished, so personally I can’t fault them. Pro
 
I had a set of the Hammond sporting viperflex quad sticks, when using them on a windy day on the top of a Cotswold ridge my shooting companion asked me how I could put up with them whistling. I ended up taping them up. After a while I saw the Decoy sticks and handled them, they are certainly a lighter weight build than the Hammond ones, but they are still sturdy enough to walk with. I have also found the Decoy sticks to be better padded to stop any clattering when using them to walk with. A pair rest in my hall now, having been put into semi-retirement by a set of Bog-Pod tripod sticks.

Why tripod sticks? Because quad sticks in thick cover are a swine to move quietly. I completely missed a couple of chances at deer because of the faff of moving the quad sticks, both times the guys with me told me to follow their example and to use a tripod set up.

So if you mainly walk field margins and crops then use the quad sticks, whichever brand you choose or even make, but if you are going to be sat in thick cover with deer liable to appear over a very wide arc then consider a set of tripods.

I have both and find myself taking out the Bog-Pods almost all the time. But I do like the Seeland Decoy quad sticks.

Simon
 
Used my vipers yesterday for the first time as the deer manager on the estate would not let me use my trigger stick or single stick. Said they have so much demand for stalks, that they are thinking of making the quads compulsory as they are so stable, they have massively reduced the amount of badly shot/injured animals.

Vipers creaked a tad as they are nearly new, but were spot on. Dropped on the spot a muntie buck at 100 yards and a doe at 120yrds - rock solid those vipers and nice to rest up ready too. V pleased with them.
 
I had a set of the Hammond sporting viperflex quad sticks, when using them on a windy day on the top of a Cotswold ridge my shooting companion asked me how I could put up with them whistling. I ended up taping them up. After a while I saw the Decoy sticks and handled them, they are certainly a lighter weight build than the Hammond ones, but they are still sturdy enough to walk with. I have also found the Decoy sticks to be better padded to stop any clattering when using them to walk with. A pair rest in my hall now, having been put into semi-retirement by a set of Bog-Pod tripod sticks.

Why tripod sticks? Because quad sticks in thick cover are a swine to move quietly. I completely missed a couple of chances at deer because of the faff of moving the quad sticks, both times the guys with me told me to follow their example and to use a tripod set up.

So if you mainly walk field margins and crops then use the quad sticks, whichever brand you choose or even make, but if you are going to be sat in thick cover with deer liable to appear over a very wide arc then consider a set of tripods.

I have both and find myself taking out the Bog-Pods almost all the time. But I do like the Seeland Decoy quad sticks.

Simon


Simon!!!
You never told me all that s*** when you sold them to me! 😂😂😂 In fact, and I quote, “they are much better than the decoy ones” ! 😂😂😂

Some people will do anything to get a sale hey Si ?😂

As it happens, when I experienced this phenomenon myself, I called John Hammond to ask him about it and he very kindly sent me some snap-on covers for the ‘whistling’ holes FOC, so kudos to him for great Customer service!

BTW, I understand from John that the whistling has been dealt with in later models and no longer happens.

Joking apart, I really rate these sticks Simon, they work perfectly, are great quality and you did me a very good deal, so I’m happy 😊 Pro
 
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