Quad sticks

im 6'2 and recently bought the seeland quad sticks ,,i find them brilliant set at 170cm ,i did tighten the bottom clamps to make sure the legs wouldt fall out alright ,,one thing to be aware off is the new improved version comes with the go low cradles for sitting kneeling shots ,all well and good you say but when it comes to standing shots the rests dont lock out level and can tilt ,,now i emailed seeland about this and they kindly sent me a set of the older stand up rests free of charge ,fair play to them ,,
 
Viperflex are releasing a new, very much improved quadstick early next year so consider holding
off purchasing for a few months!

Glendine.
 
I'd make some before and try them out first for £12 , id hate to see a good set of sticks at nr 200 come up for sale used at half price PMSL
 
i have used vipeflex and seeland decoy sticks and have found seeland to be better . the viper flex do whistle in strong wind from the adjustment holes. I think the seeland sticks are better as on the butt rest you have got about 4" movement left to right which allows you to track a moving target. As said previously the height adjustment can come loose but i used some cammo duck tape to sort that as once there set to your height there set. Both are light and dont clank but seeland for me are better value
 
There are pluses and minuses to making your own and to my mind the minuses outweigh the pluses. The pluses are cost and the fact that hazel poles or at least natural materials make more natural noises when you mess up and bump them. The minuses are that you lack the wonderful front rest of the Apex viper flex sticks.

You get locked the fore end of the stock locked between poles and if your quarry moves a bit you then have to decide whether to lift the whole rig and reposition or take the shot when you know the rifle is under some tension -which would be against the first marksmanship principle but might still get the blighter before he takes off. The lovely front rest of the Viper sticks just lets you nudge the rifle over but keeps it still with enough friction.

Of course you could make your own sticks with a great front rest but the time and cost of getting it right is probably not worth it.

On a personal note I have not used sticks for over a year. I stalk in woodland where distances are close and quarry moves through larger angles. I practise competition rifle shooting from the shoulder every weekend. It takes a lot of practise (1000s and 1000s of rounds) but it makes a difference because you can confidently take things close by much quicker from the shoulder and those sticks are flipping clunky to move with in woodland. If I were in fields over long distances all that would change and I would be on the sticks for sure.

Fit those leather saddles Mel makes, gives you a fair bit of "wiggle" room but still gives a steady shot. it's like a leather hammock that fits over pole ends.
 
I have used a home made set and a bought set hardwood set as you can find on here somewhere. The hardwood set are a fair step up from the ones I made and worth spending a bit more, but having looked at the viperflex I could not justify that kind of money
 
Viperflex are releasing a new, very much improved quadstick early next year so consider holding
off purchasing for a few months!

Glendine.

Glendine,

Do you have any more details on the new version? From peoples’ comments the Vipers seems to be very good so what can be improved?

I’m slowly upgrading from the faithful kit that has seen me through the last 10yrs of stalking (Mora and Cold Steel knives to Casstrom etc) and I’m considering a set of Viper Flex over my original B&Q home made quad sticks. I’m still on the first set of these and they have served me very well. Better value you won’t find when I think how many deer they have accounted for but people seem to rate the Vipers and I like the idea of being able to collapse them down.

Thanks in advance,

T.
 
Thanks for the heads up Iano - had the same problem with my seeland sticks but after reading your post also contacted seeland and have been offered the same solution. Excellent customer service! Not used the vipers but other than the mentioned issue with the newer design decoys I really like mine. Surely a case of go with what you prefer but more importantly understand the product, become familiar with its use (and practice with it in realistic conditions) and look after them and they will all do the job.
 
Home made for me and with the crutch version with a flat padded front rest you can track the target laterally when it moves (see later posts on in the monkey sticks thread for construction). Adds another £5 to the cost but still very cheap and satisfying to make your own

Richard
 
People spend fortunes on sticks these days. When I started you had a A STICK or STICKS.

Stalkers made their own, these days it seems that stalkers must have the latest sticks to help them shoot. I have had several good stalks this year mucked up with clients using quad sticks. They are not easy to deploy in a wood and the ones with holes in play a tune as you walk through the woods :roll:

They are all well and good if you are stationary and waiting in a certain spot, but for stalking through woodland they take too long to set up and too cumbersome. I know many rave about them, but practice using two sticks or one will give you more confidence in your ability with a rifle in my opinion.
 
People spend fortunes on sticks these days. When I started you had a A STICK or STICKS.

Stalkers made their own, these days it seems that stalkers must have the latest sticks to help them shoot. I have had several good stalks this year mucked up with clients using quad sticks. They are not easy to deploy in a wood and the ones with holes in play a tune as you walk through the woods :roll:

They are all well and good if you are stationary and waiting in a certain spot, but for stalking through woodland they take too long to set up and too cumbersome. I know many rave about them, but practice using two sticks or one will give you more confidence in your ability with a rifle in my opinion.


There is no reason you have too open them up, that way they will be a pair and not a 4....practice...!


Only my opinion.... :doh:


Tim.243
 
That’s the good thing about quad sticks - you can use them as a quad, bipod or single stick as required. The problems encountered are generally down to lack of familiarity with the system. I have often deployed the quad sticks in woodland then lifted the back of the rifle off the support to track deer movement - then becomes a bipod. No need to faff moving the legs in most cases. Besides the rubber bungees I use allow some lateral movement if needed.
 
That’s the good thing about quad sticks - you can use them as a quad, bipod or single stick as required. The problems encountered are generally down to lack of familiarity with the system. I have often deployed the quad sticks in woodland then lifted the back of the rifle off the support to track deer movement - then becomes a bipod. No need to faff moving the legs in most cases. Besides the rubber bungees I use allow some lateral movement if needed.

Mine have 5mm bolts for the pivots, also the lower joint is staggered to give the same foot print as a twin set....The back to front pivots wont hit either....

People thought the world was flat once...

Tim.243
 
There is no doubt the viperflex are rock steady, like shooting off a bench.

i struggled with mine and found them clattery and flimsy, but that could have been the golow bracket.

I went back to twin twin sticks and love them, with a bit of practice they are just as steady.
 
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