Reloading Advice

[Greenmist]

Only been asked once, why I hadn't bought any ammunition, told them I reloaded all my CF calibres, not been asked since

 

[Foxyboy43]

On a point of detail - “Guidance” is how the police interpret the law but it is not legislation. You are entirely at liberty to challenge guidance - even FEOs and FLBs get it wrong….

 

[Jefe]

Not for FEO proof, but I keep records of all my reloading as I am quite scientificaly minded and also rather anal.....

I use AirTable to keep a database. The free version is all I need, and it's AI powered, so you can just tell it what you want and it will create the database for you.

I use the following tables:

Guns: Name, Calibre, Type, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Twist, Notes
Brass: Brand, Lot #, Caliber, # Firings, Quantity, Condition, Notes
Other components: Brand, Type (Powder, Primer, Bullet Heads), Type/Weight, Quantity, Lot #, Low Stock Alert, Notes
Loads: Gun, Brass, Quantity, Bullet, Primer, Powder, Powder Charge, Shoulder Bump, Bullet Seating Depth, Cartridge BTO, Velocity, SD, ES, Notes
Sessions: Location, Weather, Temperature, Wind, Gun, Load, Rounds Fired, Group Size, Point of Impact, Accuracy Notes, Observations, Target Photo
Chronograph Data: Session, Load, Gun, String Number, # Shots, Average Velocity, SD, ES, Timestamp, Notes

Yeah, this might be overkill, but I love a bit of data and as the whole thing is relational and AI powered, I can ask questions like "which powder and charges gives the lowest SD for a particular bullet", " how does brand X bullet compare to brand Y in gun Z" or "how do weather conditions affect a particular load"...

 

[MarinePMI]

Number of Firearms: Many local police forces enforce a tiered security system. If you hold a large quantity of firearms (typically 6 or more), some forces—such as Lincolnshire—classify this as a "Level 2" security requirement and may mandate a monitored intruder alarm as a condition of your certificate. [1, 2]

I'm sorry, but I had to keep from spitting out my coffee from laughing, when I read this. A whole "6" firearms (or more) is a large quantity?

And yes, Lincolnshire is exceptionally stingy in their interpretation of the regulations.

I take that many, just to gun range at times. Smh....

 

[timbrayford]

Hi Guys
Hope you're all well.

Can i please ask how you guys record your home reloading data.
I been made aware to keep an accurate record for the FEO to inspect during his visit.

What do you guys use, is it a purchased manual or just a note book

Thanks in advance

I had that kind of nonsense from a FEO once (Hants FLD of course!) , never been asked again but I ended up just knocking up a simple table on MS Word for my own purposes , which I do find useful to refer back too.

 

[deeangeo]

It's absolutely not necessary to have any record of reloading to show an FEO.
However, for my own personal records, I like to keep tabs on what I've reloaded using Microsoft Exell.
I record all the details, incl. when anneald &chorono data occasionally. Helpful for referring back.

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

Hi Guys
Hope you're all well.

Can i please ask how you guys record your home reloading data.
I been made aware to keep an accurate record for the FEO to inspect during his visit.

What do you guys use, is it a purchased manual or just a note book

Thanks in advance

Dont
Rod for your own back
Not a legal requirement or lawful request

 

[andy R204]

All ive ever done is a small note book with rouds fired for every month so I know where my barrel is at.
Never been asked to provide proof of use on Feo renewal visits & I'm on my 17th year now as a certificate holder.

 

[Steff]

I also keep a record of every shot that‘s gone down my barrels.
It helps immensely in distinguishing between ‚hardly used‘ and ‚shot out‘ .

 

[timbrayford]

The problem is some police forces have a chief constable that enjoys shooting sports and hence their licensing team are quite possibly enthusiast's as well or totally neutral. Other forces will be the polar opposite and any firearm, legal or not are a nemesis and should be as difficult to obtain as humanly possible!
As long as firearm ownership in the UK is regarded as a privilege and not a right there will always be issues and a willing spirit of compromise at our, the end users expense.

Damned unusual for a privilege to be subject to a legal right of appeal, enforceable by law if successful!

 

[Klenchblaize]

Interesting thread and in fairness to the Op I can understand his desire to tick boxes and have all ducks aligned.

The following will not be of great help, I'm sure, but long ago I stopped reloading to my FAC imposed limit for each chambering and simply cranked the press handle in advance of a Match Day or when deer/vermin rounds dropped below 10. This was initially with a view to never falling foul of my maximum legal stockpile figure by a single round. Anyone remember the days when expanding 'heads' () counted towards one's entitlement??

The great advantage of this, for the home loader, is you no longer have need to find secure storage for c5000 rounds of mixed CF ammunition!

See, I told you it won't assist the Op!

K

 

[JonR]

Hi Guys
Hope you're all well.

Can i please ask how you guys record your home reloading data.
I been made aware to keep an accurate record for the FEO to inspect during his visit.

What do you guys use, is it a purchased manual or just a note book

Thanks in advance

The standard drill is to painstakingly keep notes until you get the perfect load. Then loose said notes until 3 days after you sell the rifle.

 

[Smellydog]

Damned unusual for a privilege to be subject to a legal right of appeal, enforceable by law if successful!

Tim, that's far to intelligently written for to understand sorry .

 

[Bo Diddley]

Tim, that's far to intelligently written for to understand sorry .

#metoo

 

[timbrayford]

Tim, that's far to intelligently written for to understand sorry .

No problem. We are always being told that firearms ownership is a privilege not a right, but that is merely a political opinion and not what the Firearms Act states. Under section 44 you have a right of appeal against a refusal to grant or renew and if upheld by the courts the Chief of Police is compelled to grant or renew. Surely these are rights enshrined in law and nothing whatever to do with privileges?

 

[Leec6.5]

Not for FEO proof, but I keep records of all my reloading as I am quite scientificaly minded and also rather anal.....

I use AirTable to keep a database. The free version is all I need, and it's AI powered, so you can just tell it what you want and it will create the database for you.

I use the following tables:

Guns: Name, Calibre, Type, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Twist, Notes
Brass: Brand, Lot #, Caliber, # Firings, Quantity, Condition, Notes
Other components: Brand, Type (Powder, Primer, Bullet Heads), Type/Weight, Quantity, Lot #, Low Stock Alert, Notes
Loads: Gun, Brass, Quantity, Bullet, Primer, Powder, Powder Charge, Shoulder Bump, Bullet Seating Depth, Cartridge BTO, Velocity, SD, ES, Notes
Sessions: Location, Weather, Temperature, Wind, Gun, Load, Rounds Fired, Group Size, Point of Impact, Accuracy Notes, Observations, Target Photo
Chronograph Data: Session, Load, Gun, String Number, # Shots, Average Velocity, SD, ES, Timestamp, Notes

Yeah, this might be overkill, but I love a bit of data and as the whole thing is relational and AI powered, I can ask questions like "which powder and charges gives the lowest SD for a particular bullet", " how does brand X bullet compare to brand Y in gun Z" or "how do weather conditions affect a particular load"...

Horlicks to all that!

 

[Leec6.5]

Not for FEO proof, but I keep records of all my reloading as I am quite scientificaly minded and also rather anal.....

I use AirTable to keep a database. The free version is all I need, and it's AI powered, so you can just tell it what you want and it will create the database for you.

I use the following tables:

Guns: Name, Calibre, Type, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Twist, Notes
Brass: Brand, Lot #, Caliber, # Firings, Quantity, Condition, Notes
Other components: Brand, Type (Powder, Primer, Bullet Heads), Type/Weight, Quantity, Lot #, Low Stock Alert, Notes
Loads: Gun, Brass, Quantity, Bullet, Primer, Powder, Powder Charge, Shoulder Bump, Bullet Seating Depth, Cartridge BTO, Velocity, SD, ES, Notes
Sessions: Location, Weather, Temperature, Wind, Gun, Load, Rounds Fired, Group Size, Point of Impact, Accuracy Notes, Observations, Target Photo
Chronograph Data: Session, Load, Gun, String Number, # Shots, Average Velocity, SD, ES, Timestamp, Notes

Yeah, this might be overkill, but I love a bit of data and as the whole thing is relational and AI powered, I can ask questions like "which powder and charges gives the lowest SD for a particular bullet", " how does brand X bullet compare to brand Y in gun Z" or "how do weather conditions affect a particular load"...

With all due respect all your doing with that is offering the law a world of pain to dish out to the rest of us!

 

[Smellydog]

No problem. We are always being told that firearms ownership is a privilege not a right, but that is merely a political opinion and not what the Firearms Act states. Under section 44 you have a right of appeal against a refusal to grant or renew and if upheld by the courts the Chief of Police is compelled to grant or renew. Surely these are rights enshrined in law and nothing whatever to do with privileges?

Thank you and yes, true. However, the mere fact that that is an option is bad enough!

 

[Rutland lad]

I can sort of understand the FEO wanting to know what you’re using the firearm for - but if, like me, you’re shooting deer, then my deer records show date/tines/locations of deer shot. That (to me) shows useage.
I can see those throwing ammo down a range may not have that easy remedy.

If the FEO wanted more proof I’d recommend they speak to the butcher that handles my input, noting all the carcass tags that relate to my records. I doubt they’d pursue that option.

 

[Jefe]

With all due respect all your doing with that is offering the law a world of pain to dish out to the rest of us!

Well, the law has never seen and probably never will see my database. Nor have they asked for any loading data.

But what I am doing with it is keeping highly accurate records of what works and what doesn’t - and how different components, measurements and environmental conditions effect performance - which then allows me to make predictions based on real data.

Each to their own..z