No you’re bang on, I can’t quite understand where they are coming from to be honest
Renewal application rejected
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It says it here
which, interestingly is the same as on the GMP (my authority) website. It might be the same for other FLDs?
I didn't give it a second thought, since the GP who completed the form had my whole record to review - so I guess that meant it was OK. I wonder whether Shootist's GP has unthinkingly and in all innocence put the 2017 date when he started being his GP in the 'date records begin' space - rather than the date the entire record begins?
I'm not sure where the 10-year stipulation has come from, though - and why, if it's so important, the GP Proforma itself doesn't mention it.
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Not quite correct… it asks for the applicant to provide details of GP Practices over the last 10 years… to me that means the OP identifying and listing the GP’s details prior to 2017. Not necessarily that the medical records must go back over 10 years… a bit like listing previous addresses if you’ve only lived at your present address for less than 3 years, or so as stipulated on some forms / documents.
It all sounds unfair, as some people may have recently moved, but luckily, I’ve been registered with the same GP for 22 years.. although never had to mention firearms to them in all this time, until the conversation I’m going to have to have this year..
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BenBhoy
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I fully understand why youve done that mate, no slight on you, but how the fuçk have we ended up in a position, with kecks round our ankles, forking out £90 for bugger all!! A quick email from feo to go, all good, off you go. Absolute pïss take but we just go along with it and say thank you sir.
I’ve just checked the FLD of Cambrishire who’m I fall under. As per my post above, it’s points 2 & 3 that are critical. It asks the applicant to identify all registered practices for which you’ll have been registered for the last 10 years. The OP should have still listed the former GP’s detailed whether now deceased on not.. they’re looking for a record of 10 years of registration.
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Heck i am a very lucky guy , it just cost us £25 per person to get a GP report for myself and my daughters FAC & Shotgun reports done ( my daughters is quite a complex one btw).
Your medical records should not just disappear when your doctor retires or passes away ! Certainly very strange and needs looking into as far as the surgery who kept them
Your medical records should not just disappear when your doctor retires or passes away ! Certainly very strange and needs looking into as far as the surgery who kept them
Yup - just which GP or other doctors you have had for 10 years. The form the GP fills in is literally a tick box job. Perhaps the OP needs to provide the previous GP?
andy R204
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We're a captive audience BB & if the quack won't play ball we're up the creek without a paddle.It's a small price to pay for a sport/pastime I love.
It's a sign of the times mate.Since the "Great Cough" of 2020-22 it's opened up all sorts of money making grifts.
I couldn't even get a Hgv medical in 2021 had to use a private Dr however if I wanted a
for the Rona my Dr would happily fit me in
.my medical form was rejected because my doctor did not fill in the dates of my last appointment and when i joined the GP surgery i assume that was to check if i had been with them for ten years .Thames valley refunded the money and made me start again ,i took the form back to the doctor dates added and spent another 2 hours filing in the online form .Its now back with Thames valley
Sinistral
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The minimum term of 10 years (2 renewal cycles) is set by statute . . Section 2.65 on page 15.
Applicants are assumed to know what the law is I suppose.
olliehopes
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Surely, with common sense, it is only the 5 years since you held your certificate that really matters? They were happy on your grant/last renewal otherwise you wouldn't have gotten your tickets back!
My repeated point that I've raised with BASC after this system was brought in, that little box on the renewal application, "none since last application"
sikamalc
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Again we see the police applying rules that are being made up by each constabulary, which just adds to the paperwork, with little real relevance to public safety.
Many people move home, putting them under a different doctors surgery, but medical notes should be easily obtained on request, and going back 10 years on someones notes, or to ask a doctors opinion 10 years back is pointless. And the doctor or surgery may have closed/retired or passed away.
It is just another way of putting pressure on legitimate firearms owners, in my opinion.
Many people move home, putting them under a different doctors surgery, but medical notes should be easily obtained on request, and going back 10 years on someones notes, or to ask a doctors opinion 10 years back is pointless. And the doctor or surgery may have closed/retired or passed away.
It is just another way of putting pressure on legitimate firearms owners, in my opinion.
That isn't the case unfortunately
As per the guidance list above did you list your GP surgeries covering the last 10years? My renewal I listed my current (6 years) and previous (2 years) and the one before that so they had the 10 years of GP surgeries info, it’s not that your records weren’t checked for a longer period it’s likely they just need the 10 years of surgery details, a bit like the 5 year address history other places ask for….
ColinJ
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Thank you for posting this. Unfortunately most comments are ignoring it and are continuing to have a pop at the police! Statutory Guidance comes from the Home Office, not the police.
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