Something is definitely not right with my scope

[TH4]

wow

How many on here shoot 50bmg on deer though. We are talking standard stalking calibres

 

[TH4]

Why should I, I believe in physics and as a design engineer done plenty similar calculations before. You on the other hand do not need to believe anything and can do your own thing. No need to veer on the safer side.
edi

Though you may think so, you are not the only engineer in the world. I am talking about real life experience with a range of my own rifles. The majority of scopes come off before they go in the cabinet to maximise space and none bear any witness marks from hitting the barrel. The comment why should I actually means no I can't. Why not tell the truth.

 

[finnbear270]

My preference, and that of a way more qualified shooting buddy is, if possible, to mount scopes with the scope bell having clearance for an A4 sheet of copy paper to pass between without interference, none of our full bore riflescopes have suffered damage or P.O.I. shift.

 

[ejg]

How many on here shoot 50bmg on deer though. We are talking standard stalking calibres

I shot 50 cal before and even saw my bullets impact, often had hunting rifles that I could not see my impact. Recoil behavior on a rifle depends on several factors with the overall weight being one factor vs recoil of the cartridge. Acceleration upon recoil might be higher in a hunting rifle vs a heavy 50 cal system. Try understand what is actually happening.
My question would be why it is so important to mount a scope to paper thickness or 1mm from the barrel vs say a more conservative 3mm? Is it because you rifle stock is not shaped right? Certainly not because of the way a rifle shoots.
edi

 

[finnbear270]

I shot 50 cal before and even saw my bullets impact, often had hunting rifles that I could not see my impact. Recoil behavior on a rifle depends on several factors with the overall weight being one factor vs recoil of the cartridge. Acceleration upon recoil might be higher in a hunting rifle vs a heavy 50 cal system. Try understand what is actually happening.
My question would be why it is so important to mount a scope to paper thickness or 1mm from the barrel vs say a more conservative 3mm? Is it because you rifle stock is not shaped right? Certainly not because of the way a rifle shoots.
edi

Some of the larger objective stuff now being mounted would have excessive ring mount heights if not mounted low down, Scope centre to bore centre etc.

 

[ejg]

Some of the larger objective stuff now being mounted would have excessive ring mount heights if not mounted low down, Scope centre to bore centre etc.

???? One mounts a scope, (any scope) so that it clears barrel, rail etc. Mount height must be chosen accordingly or?
edi

 

[Steff]

Some of the larger objective stuff now being mounted …

Which is quite useless with NV and thermals widely available.
The trend on the continent is exactly the opposite.

 

[TH4]

I shot 50 cal before and even saw my bullets impact, often had hunting rifles that I could not see my impact. Recoil behavior on a rifle depends on several factors with the overall weight being one factor vs recoil of the cartridge. Acceleration upon recoil might be higher in a hunting rifle vs a heavy 50 cal system. Try understand what is actually happening.
My question would be why it is so important to mount a scope to paper thickness or 1mm from the barrel vs say a more conservative 3mm? Is it because you rifle stock is not shaped right? Certainly not because of the way a rifle shoots.
edi

Because it suits me like that. Why alter or change a stock so that you can raise the scope when it is unnecessary.

 

[finnbear270]

???? One mounts a scope, (any scope) so that it clears barrel, rail etc. Mount height must be chosen accordingly or?
edi

OR?, Add an extra 3+mm? & use the scope like an FN handle

 

[Klenchblaize]

K

 

[finnbear270]

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K

Exactamundo!

 

[ejg]

Another reason not to buy second hand scopes.
edi

 

[JockStalk]

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K

I really don’t like those rings with that scope and action. Good god man, have you not heard of aesthetics?

 

[User00040]

???? One mounts a scope, (any scope) so that it clears barrel, rail etc. Mount height must be chosen accordingly or?
edi

You should know by now that aesthetics are the primary selection criteria for stalking rifles, they usually only come out once a year and spend the rest of the time being polished

 

[User00040]

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K

How will such a setup accommodate a front mounted thermal/NV unit?!

 

[Klenchblaize]

I really don’t like those rings with that scope and action. Good god man, have you not heard of aesthetics?

You have a point if referring to the mounts as profiling (scolloped edges) was sadly never completed by PRS. It is however on my “to do” list and when I find someone with a suitable milling setup to make light and accurate work of such a small job.

K

 

[Steff]

You should know by now that aesthetics are the primary selection criteria for stalking rifles, they usually only come out once a year and spend the rest of the time being polished

I like women who have an itch for good cooking. But I‘d only marry her if she‘s pretty.

 

[JTO]

It might be something as simple as the dial indicator, not correctly indicating.

My S&B seems to be like that!
Count the clicks from top to bottom and then wind it half way to see what the indicator shows.

 

[Dalua]

Yes and no, acceleration of a rifle upon recoil depends on the recoil of the cartridge and the rifle weight. Have a cartridge with 1/3 of the recoil & 1/3 of the weight and you are at a similar acceleration. Scope weight vs scope mount system. The 2.5-10x56 Zenith is probably around 800 grams vs 1100grams of the 5-25 pictured in vid. Mounts look twice as strong.
edi

In the vid, it looks to me as though at least some of the 'scope's movement results from the flexing of the rail on which the mount sits - which seems to be unsupported for a good part of its length.

 

[Koenig]

Why is there an ’H’ stamped on one end of the mount? If it is indeed an H it might suggest orientation to the Heel of rifle?
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Just a suggestion.

K

It’s H for high. The model number is often also stamped on the mount. I’ve used DNZ’s for years. Most have a cut out to align with the ejection port and therefore only fit one way. I can’t speak for a T3x mount however, I’ll have a look at my two setups in a minute and come back to you.