The bullet or head debate goes on.

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TH4 said:
In the big scheme of things, does it really matter ?
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Utectok said:
Nope far more important things to worry about…
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I agree, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter. On their own head be it.

It is the insistence on the right to be incorrect I find worrying.

The Stalking Directory is far from the grand scheme of things. It is a forum where we discuss the nuances of deer and shooting, and the subtleties of reloading.

I can understand someone being confused by retailers listing their bullets as heads and adopting the term in ignorance. What I don’t understand is why people on here would want to insist on using “heads” or “bullet heads” when the reason it is incorrect and potentially dangerous is pointed out.

Just because it is a wind up seems a bit weak.

I haven’t seen an argument that supports the logic of using “bullet heads”. Just a criticism that people shouldn’t be fussed about the issue.

We care about precise shooting, why should we not care about precise shooting terminology?

We don’t insist on imprecise muzzle awareness why insist upon the right to use imprecise descriptions?

Alan
 
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Woodsmoke said:
I'm not knocking anyone for 'spelling and grammar'. My beef is with the continued use of a term that has been demonstrated time and time again to be incorrect. Some people seem to take a delight in continuing to display their wilful ignorance as though making a virtue of it. Almost as though they have a bit of a chip on their shoulder . . . . .

Anyway, it seems nothing is likely to change some folks attitudes to the issue, so my previous point stands. People have been told what is correct. If they choose not to learn from others then that's their prerogative.
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Very much so. I just ignore a great many posts that display a sloppy approach to how they've been written. It seems to be the norm for an ever-increasing number of posters though. Which only goes to reinforce my belief that people in general are becoming stupider. You'd think that statement alone would motivate members to put more effort into their posts though, wouldn't you?

The thing is very much like local terms irrespective of what it says in the dictionary or how someone does goes about something.
A spade or graft a lump hammer or club hammer.....wheel/tyre

Head is what my Dad would call when toothing out a doorway so the head of the door frame would fit.

A dinging iron is what I know is used for jointing up brick work (old bucket handles were best)

Heads of terms is used every day in all sorts of business

However the masses call it a bullet projectile which is fine....but I call it a head lol

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Alantoo said:
I agree, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter. On their own head be it.

It is the insistence on the right to be incorrect I find worrying.

The Stalking Directory is far from the grand scheme of things. It is a forum where we discuss the nuances of deer and shooting, and the subtleties of reloading.

I can understand someone being confused by retailers listing their bullets as heads and adopting the term in ignorance. What I don’t understand is why people on here would want to insist on using “heads” or “bullet heads” when the reason it is incorrect and potentially dangerous is pointed out.

Just because it is a wind up seems a bit weak.

I haven’t seen an argument that supports the logic of using “bullet heads”. Just a criticism that people shouldn’t be fussed about the issue.

We care about precise shooting, why should we not care about precise shooting terminology?

We don’t insist on imprecise muzzle awareness why insist upon the right to use imprecise descriptions?

Alan
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Alantoo said:
I agree, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter. On their own head be it.

It is the insistence on the right to be incorrect I find worrying.

The Stalking Directory is far from the grand scheme of things. It is a forum where we discuss the nuances of deer and shooting, and the subtleties of reloading.

I can understand someone being confused by retailers listing their bullets as heads and adopting the term in ignorance. What I don’t understand is why people on here would want to insist on using “heads” or “bullet heads” when the reason it is incorrect and potentially dangerous is pointed out.

Just because it is a wind up seems a bit weak.

I haven’t seen an argument that supports the logic of using “bullet heads”. Just a criticism that people shouldn’t be fussed about the issue.

We care about precise shooting, why should we not care about precise shooting terminology?

We don’t insist on imprecise muzzle awareness why insist upon the right to use imprecise descriptions?

Alan
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Alan, do you remember when you replied to my short clip of me making a long nail at an engineering firm
while I was waiting for the cut off saw to finish so I could go back to the turning work....?
Yes we have discussed it via pm but you did proceed to tell me in a roundabout way I was doing it wrong.

It matters not but it has the same tone of people complaining on how people describe something to how others see it....

Any way the hammer head never fell off and the nail passed inspection lol
 
Alantoo said:
I agree, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter. On their own head be it.

It is the insistence on the right to be incorrect I find worrying.

The Stalking Directory is far from the grand scheme of things. It is a forum where we discuss the nuances of deer and shooting, and the subtleties of reloading.

I can understand someone being confused by retailers listing their bullets as heads and adopting the term in ignorance. What I don’t understand is why people on here would want to insist on using “heads” or “bullet heads” when the reason it is incorrect and potentially dangerous is pointed out.

Just because it is a wind up seems a bit weak.

I haven’t seen an argument that supports the logic of using “bullet heads”. Just a criticism that people shouldn’t be fussed about the issue.

We care about precise shooting, why should we not care about precise shooting terminology?

We don’t insist on imprecise muzzle awareness why insist upon the right to use imprecise descriptions?

Alan
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Respect your view but it just seems pedantic to me. You could call it a tulip if you want, as long as it hits where I aim I don't care
 
Tim.243 said:
Heads of terms is used every day in all sorts of business

However the masses call it a bullet projectile which is fine....but I call it a head lol
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And you are wrong. Colloquialisms are one thing, the deliberate use of an incorrect term to describe any object with has its own descriptive noun is quite another. The correct term is 'bullet'. It always has been, and always will be. people are free to call it a banana if they so desire, but they'll be wrong. Some might say say choosing to continue to be wrong in the face of clear and unambiguous clarification is the action of a fool, but there you go . . . . .

If this is indicative of prevailing attitudes today, then I despair as to why anyone would ever choose to become a schoolteacher.
 
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Woodsmoke said:
And you are wrong. Colloquialisms are one thing, the deliberate use of an incorrect term to describe any object with has its own descriptive noun is quite another. The correct term is 'bullet'. It always has been, and always will be. You're free to call it a banana if you so desire, but you'll be wrong. Some might say say choosing to continue to be wrong in the face of clear and unambiguous clarification is the action of a fool, but there you go . . . . .

If this is indicative of prevailing attitudes today, then I despair as to why anyone would ever choose to become a schoolteacher.
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As often people cherry pick parts of a post to suit :rofl:

So do you use the terms Reg (Regulator) or DV (Demand Valve) Lp hose Hp hose the list is endless
A cuppa or have a brew.....we do this very day
Get a grip is a good term :tiphat:



The other points were

A spade or graft a lump hammer or club hammer.....wheel/tyre

Head is what my Dad would call when toothing out a doorway so the head of the door frame would fit.

A dinging iron is what I know is used for jointing up brick work (old bucket handles were best)
 
Tim.243 said:
As often people cherry pick parts of a post to suit :rofl:
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You're still incorrect. Abbreviations and colloquialisms are commonplace. Your use of 'heads' to refer to bullets is wrong, plain and simple. If you won't to be educated then so be it. I'm not wasting any more of my time with you on this. You've been told you're wrong, and shown to be so. You refuse to accept that. Suit yourself, I'm done with you :rolleyes:
 
Tim.243 said:
As often people cherry pick parts of a post to suit :rofl:

So do you use the terms Reg (Regulator) or DV (Demand Valve) Lp hose Hp hose the list is endless
A cuppa or have a brew.....we do this very day
Get a grip is a good term :tiphat:



The other points were

A spade or graft a lump hammer or club hammer.....wheel/tyre

Head is what my Dad would call when toothing out a doorway so the head of the door frame would fit.

A dinging iron is what I know is used for jointing up brick work (old bucket handles were best)
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You haven't got to the bit about giving head Yet Tim
 
Woodsmoke said:
You're still incorrect. Abbreviations and colloquialisms are commonplace. Your use of 'heads' to refer to bullets is wrong, plain and simple. If you won't to be educated then so be it. I'm not wasting any more of my time with you on this. You've been told you're wrong, and shown to be so. You refuse to accept that. Suit yourself, I'm done with you :rolleyes:
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:tiphat:

 
TH4 said:
Respect your view but it just seems pedantic to me. You could call it a tulip if you want, as long as it hits where I aim I don't care
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Absolutely...providing everybody in the situation also call it a tulip there is no confusion. There is no confusion if we all use the word bullet. Why would you not want to use the word bullet?

We have had the issue on here a number of times when people have confused "Head Space" with "Jump to the lands" ie space in between bullet ogive and rifling...they thought it referred to the space in front of the "head"...They were trying to match one tolerance with the other. A risk of over pressure...compounded by misunderstood / inaccurate / unecessary terminology.

Alan
 
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