Thoughts on air rifle. 177 or 22?

762Scot

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I am considering getting a sub 12 ft/lb springer air rifle for rabbits/vermin and would like to hear peoples views on scope rifle combinations. I would also like to find out which caliber most people are currently using.
I am not interested in PCP airguns... am trying to keep it simple. Appreciate any input
 
My father tought his 4 sons with a .22 Weirhauch HW35 and my son has it now 40 years on.

Heavy but accurate.. I'm sure he used it as an excuse to smoke more as we knocked the fag buts off the washing line stay..
 
As a bloke with FAR too many airguns, I would tend to lean towards a .177 at sub legal limit levels. The trajectory is much flatter so it is much more forgiving to errors in range estimations and still kills rabbits/crows/pigeons etc. very effectively (I hesitate to tell you your business, but please only headshots though as neither really has the power to consistently achieve body shots).
I could write pages on scopes and rifles but a lot of it is down to personal choice and budget. Contrary to the usual advice with a normal rifle, I would advise spending most of your money on the rifle and less on the scope, especially for hunting, as the cheaper guns usually have rubbish triggers and can be rough. My recommendation for a lower end package would be a BSA Lightning XL with a Hawke 3-9*50 on top, possibly with mildots as they are quite useful for the holdover and under. You can pick them up a package for around £250ish second hand.
Other good guns that I have personal experience hunting with are the Weihrauch HW35, HW95K, HW57 and HW97K, plus I am told that the HW77 and HW80 are also excellent. Air Arms do the Prosport and the TX200K which is my current favourite air rifle and comes recommended. If you can find one the Theoben Evolution gas ram is also lovely, and a safer bet now that Impact Air have taken over the servicing and maintenance responsibilities.
Scopes to consider would be the hawke range, MTC Optics (the Taipan series are personal favourites) as well as Bushnell and Nikko Stirling. All will last forever and the optics are quite impressive for the price, especially with the MTC scopes. I do all my hunting on 6x so any scope around that range is ideal. Right, that's enough waffling for one night, I hope it helped,
Alistair
 
I mainly use PCP Rapid 7 in .22 set at only 10ft/lb as most of my air rifle shooting these days is in barns where too much penetration is a curse.However my favourite airgun for general use would be my old HW35 in.177:self contained,less hitting power compared to.22 more than compensated for by flatter trajectory at sub 12ft/lb.
 
HW77 / 97 (go for the under lever) - I have both (one in .177 and tother in .22) beautiful, accurate, well made and reliable hunting air guns.

Pop a Hawke Panorama HD IR on the top and you're ready to bash bunnies well into the dusk.

I also run H&N Field Target Trophy pellets and find they are good through all my Wiehrauch's.

And if you ever go to PCP.... try a HW100 - it's a modern day classic :thumb:

I too have an air gun collecting problem.......
 
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.177 most likely although I do have a .22 and it is easier to shoot in .22 from a recoil side of things. but the .177 have the best trajectory !
Why not a cheap BSA Ultra PCP in .177 and a stirup pump? Small cylinder to fill and a cracking rifle and bout second had as a package would come in at a simlar price to a new good springer.

ATB

Matt
 
Thanks for all the input. Really helpful and lots to consider.
Alistair many thanks for the informative post.
salopsniper, appreciate your point but I want to stay away from the diving cylinder and other gear.
Had looked at options and I had already considered the BSA Lightning and the Weihrauch HW97 with composite stock new prices are pretty good if you look around.
 
IMO Alistair is spot on.

With sub-12FPE air shot placement is far and away the most important consideration and the flatter trajectory of a .177 makes it more forgiving.

I'd go for an HW, AirArms or Walther (UGL) underlever, but if you prefer a lighter rifle, the HW95, Walther Century or BSA Lightning are good choices.
 
All good advice , my 2 pence , 177 for a lovely flat trajectory , accurate and plenty of stopping power at sensible ranges , I had a BSA lightning and now have a 97k , absolutely no comparison , the hw is superb , found the BSA to Hild sensitive , don't buy new though , get on a few airgun sites soooo many second hand bargains and hws will outlast you and so easy to work on and very satisfying , I will say though that my go to airgun is a 177 BSA hornet pcp , custom stock , its accounted for more vermin than any of my powder burners and is a superb tool
Rgds
Craig
 
personally id go for AA s410 or a daystate mk4 or huntsman both in .177 super accurate and super quite.
the last thing you want when shooting pigeons or similar is a springer scaring off everything in 500yrds.
but that's my own personal opinion.
 
I have a .177 and use heavier bisley magnums
zero at 33yds
1" low at 45
2" low at 50

still fast enough to knock a rabbit over at that range
personally think it is easier to shoot than .22 in springer format
 
Does anyone know anything about the tuned Weirauch from Sandwell Field Sports called the Imp. I've heard it's good and not too costly.
To my eternal shame I have one of those as well :roll:. As far as break barrel air rifles go it really is the dogs danglies. Mine puts out 11.4ft/lbs with a greater 10 shot consistency than my Daystate Mk4 and is superbly accurate. The HW95 is good as standard, but the stage 2 tuned one from Tony is something else.
 
I was always a 22 man. but after getting my 1st pcp years back in 177. I would never go back to 22 in sub 12ftlb form.

shot pigeons. rats. and crows with it and never had a problem with knock down power from 177.
I habe a old daystate harrier. shoots lovely
 
Thanks again for all your help. A lot of knowledge on here. I am glad I asked the question.
It looks like a HW97 in .177.
 
I used to shoot a lot of vermin with a .177 HW 77 then moved on to a HW97 both great rifles. I prefer the flatter trajectory. But each to their own I was confidently head shooting at 40 - 50 m with it

Dave
 
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